How To Mess Up Some Nice T206s - 1908 Cubs Display

[Leon]

I don't remember seeing where a person ruined?, with glue, some nice looking T206s while making a display. I read the description as it looked neat but then got to the part about a drop of glue . Some were popped out of PSA cases. Good or bad?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Chicag...Sdi:rk:62:pf:0
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[Bill77]

They used a reproduction photo why not use reprint cards as well?

[ullmandds]

a "professional" job would have been archival matting with cutouts for each card...and would have been quite expensive. This job was poorly done...destroyed the value of the cards...and doesn't even look good...in my humble opinion!

[Leon]

I know. I kind of like the display but when I read the description I am like WTF....

Originally Posted by Bill77

They used a reproduction photo why not use reprint cards as well?

[tothrk]

I voted for “it doesn’t matter they messed the cards up”. Even if the backs of the cards were ruined from being peeled out of a scrapbook or something like that, adding more glue doesn’t help. It’s like giving a drowning man a glass of water.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by tothrk

I voted for “it doesn’t matter they messed the cards up”. Even if the backs of the cards were ruined from being peeled out of a scrapbook or something like that, adding more glue doesn’t help. It’s like giving a drowning man a glass of water.

Interesting perspective. I think they might not have been ruined backs as some were cracked out of PSA cases. Maybe they were already ruined, at least hopefully they were.

[ullmandds]

i was a tad bit harsh...it DOES look kinda cool...but not terribly professional!

[tschock]

Personally, I try to keep anything in their current state as best I can. The 'do no harm' thing. But in this case, I guess it depends on the size of the 'drop' of glue. One very tiny drop that fits outside the back border of the card will probably not do any more damage to the card than already exists. One 'drop' in the middle of the card the size of a thumbtack, probably a bit overkill. It should take the very smallest amount to hold them in place until framed.

[swarmee]

His sentences about coupons and Sweet Capital lost me. Needs a history lesson.

[trdcrdkid]

None of the cards look better than about a 2, so I’m not too upset about it. Still, I agree that it’s not a professional job, and it would have been much better to do it without glue.

[bounce]

I think the display looks nice, although I also agree if you're going to use real cards why not find a real photo?

Regarding the cards, there was a better way to do it than glue, would have required a little more work but wouldn't have been hard.

Feels lazy more than anything.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i was a tad bit harsh...it DOES look kinda cool...but not terribly professional!

Agreed. I would have at least tried to align the borders a little better, regardless of size/cut/wear on the card.

I can only imagine how a double matting would have looked with the cards (expensive as ...). The top matte just showing the color/images and the bottom matte as white, to 'simulate' the actual borders.

[gregr2]

I like the display though it sucks they ruined the cards. Don't understand why they didn't use reprints, they could have artificially aged the cards to get the same effect.

[ullmandds]

I picked this up at a tag sale in CT last summer for $20 because I like the cards and the frame job/matting is just so beautifully done and probably cost 50 times what the cards are worth. This is what I'd call a professional job!

[kmac32]

There are things that places like Aarons use to stick cards that come off without ruining the paper so they would not necessarily be ruined

[frankbmd]

Calling this piece a “professional work of art” in Chicago may well be stretching the definition, particularly on the south side.

Calling this piece a “masterpiece” on the north side would be considered an understatement though.

A Cub fan worried about da matting or a drop of glue - fahget about it?

That said a well chewed stick of Wrigley’s gum instead of da glue would easily double the value.

[perezfan]

It looks quite unprofessional to me, and I don't care for it. All they had to do was utilize clear mounting corners, as opposed to compromising the cards.

Bad choice to use the glue, IMO.

[jcc6252]

I think it's pretty cool and voted "I like the display regardless". But, couldn't they have used a Chicago Lundgren, instead of the KC variation?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jcc6252

I think it's pretty cool and voted "I like the display regardless". But, couldn't they have used a Chicago Lundgren, instead of the KC variation?

Great point. I noticed the Hayden, but not the Lundgren.

[Chris Counts]

I vote for No. 5: I don't like the display, and they messed the cards up. If you're going to destroy cards, at least create a good layout. The Cubs collection looks like someone spent about two minutes thinking it out.

Here's a piece I picked up a few years ago. I'm guessing someone — likely a woman — spent an entire winter hunched over a wood stove stitching this thing together. I wonder if she smoked Turkey Red cigarettes? I love how the colors are mixed up ...

[Exhibitman]

Could've mounted the cards in mylar cuts; that's what the Met does with the Burdick cards and it looks just fine.

[mybuddyinc]

No real comment about cards .... BUT:

Who the *&$&# wrote out the Players Names on the photo ??

Six or more "unidentified" of a WS Champs Team !!!!! .... Get out a roster, for goodness sake !!!

Tinker, Evers, Chance sitting center front, yet names all over the place.

Brown seated second from left, yet listed second from right.

And they are the ones I recognize, probably more wrong than right ......

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by kmac32

There are things that places like Aarons use to stick cards that come off without ruining the paper so they would not necessarily be ruined

Even if the look of corner tabs was not wanted, archival framing tape is acid free and water soluble. There was zero research into this plan.

[conor912]

While I actually like it aesthetically, I could never own that, let alone make it. It was made by a casual fan (and not a card collector) with more money than sense. Happens all the time.

[3-2-count]

Whoever created this display could have very easily done it differently and at a very minimal cost. This is a Crackerjack display that I put together a few years ago which includes real cards along with a repro poster. Each card was placed into a plastic mylar sleeve and safely secured behind a custom cut matte.

I thought the end result was pretty sharp.

[Leon]

Very nice looking display, Tony.

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Whoever created this display could have very easily done it differently and at a very minimal cost. This is a Crackerjack display that I put together a few years ago which includes real cards along with a repro poster. Each card was placed into a plastic mylar sleeve and safely secured behind a custom cut matte.

I thought the end result was pretty sharp.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Leon

Very nice looking display, Tony.

beautiful Tony...but c'mon...repro poster!!!!!!!! cheapskate!!!!

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by Leon

I know. I kind of like the display but when I read the description I am like WTF....

You're kidding, right?

The cards aren't even glued on straight and evenly spaced!

[Yastrzemski Sports]

This is something that was clearly done by this person recently who wanted to enjoy it. Probably when the Cubs won the series. So it's been a couple of years and now they have decided they want their money back out of it. If you put glue on the cards and break them out of holders you don't get 650 for 350 worth of cards. The only way to Make some money here is to get that Zimmerman card signed.
Sorry, too soon?

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

I vote for No. 5: I don't like the display, and they messed the cards up. If you're going to destroy cards, at least create a good layout. The Cubs collection looks like someone spent about two minutes thinking it out.

Here's a piece I picked up a few years ago. I'm guessing someone — likely a woman — spent an entire winter hunched over a wood stove stitching this thing together. I wonder if she smoked Turkey Red cigarettes? I love how the colors are mixed up ...

Sorry to break it to you, Chris, but, that was made in 2012 by some punk in Girard, Ohio

[Leon]

It is interesting that the top 3 choices were almost equal.

I think having all of the cards signed and authenticated would be better. Then the slabs could get glued on with the cards in them thereby saving the cards from disaster!!

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

This is something that was clearly done by this person recently who wanted to enjoy it. Probably when the Cubs won the series. So it's been a couple of years and now they have decided they want their money back out of it. If you put glue on the cards and break them out of holders you don't get 650 for 350 worth of cards. The only way to Make some money here is to get that Zimmerman card signed.
Sorry, too soon?

[CobbSpikedMe]

I might be in the minority but I don't really like the display at all. I just don't think the composition is appealing the way the photo is on the top with the cards so close together right beneath it. I think they should've been spaced further apart and maybe go around the photo.

Even if I wasn't a collector and I was just putting this together to resell it, I wouldn't have glued the cards to the background. I would have researched different ways to adhere them and done something different. And just because the cards are low grade already doesn't mean they weren't ruined further by using glue. All around I don't like the whole thing.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Leon

It is interesting that the top 3 choices were almost equal.

I think having all of the cards signed and authenticated would be better. Then the slabs could get glued on with the cards in them thereby saving the cards from disaster!!

Just goes to show beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

[mrvster]

what backs???? some bl 460's????????

[Tao_Moko]

I don't think it would have looked any better to have 110 year old paper tobacco ads in cheap chinese plastic with laser labels and shiny holograms and 1/2" weird font numbers in the corner displayed with a team photo. In the eye of the beholder I guess. To prove that point - this painting sold for $75 million a few years ago:

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

I don't think it would have looked any better to have 110 year old paper tobacco ads in cheap chinese plastic with laser labels and shiny holograms and 1/2" weird font numbers in the corner displayed with a team photo. In the eye of the beholder I guess. To prove that point - this painting sold for $75 million a few years ago:

We have a few Rothko prints hanging in our home. Not a fan, but my wife is. Definitely in the eye of the beholder. I’ll take my Banksy works any day over Rothko. As for the display, I might have a different opinion if they weren’t glued on in a crooked pattern and it wasn’t done recently.

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

We have a few Rothko prints hanging in our home. Not a fan, but my wife is. Definitely in the eye of the beholder. I’ll take my Banksy works any day over Rothko. As for the display, I might have a different opinion if they weren’t glued on in a crooked pattern and it wasn’t done recently.

Ah! I thought for sure Rothko would be just obscure and overpriced enough to avoid upsetting anyone here. I never argue religion or art but Rothko.......makes me break the silence. I just the other day thought of his paintings because my daughter pooped a soft mustard yellow diaper in a rectangular pattern. She "made a Rothko". I'm with you on banksy, but faith47 is gaining ground. This is actually a pretty neat thread because aside from damage and value we're talking aesthetics. Display is an important part of the hobby. The artistic value and representation of the card(artwork)preserves the history of the sport and era. It's all opinion and none are wrong as long as it doesn't shred upon my purchase.

[mr2686]

There's different ways to mount cards (magazines...whatever) like that without ruining them. The easiest for the cards would be to leave them in semi-rigid sleeves and attach the sleeve from the back of the matting (just showing the card. You can also attach some archival paper/matt to the back of each opening (again from the back) so that the card sits between the matts so that nothing but the card shows from the front. Worst thing you can do is to just glue or attach the card to the front like the example.
I might add, for those that want to try something like this, you can find many independent framing shops in your city that will just cut the matt openings for you for a reasonable price (much cheaper than aaron bros, michaels etc). Then just get an expensive but nice frame and do all the attaching of cards yourself. Cheaper and more fun that way IMHO.

[VintageBen]

"The backs of the cards, along with a short bio of the player and some stats, have coupons for the cigarette who pack they were in; Sweet Capital, Piedmont and Polar Bear"


I didn't know that T206's had player bios and stats on the back.... that's news to me.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

Ah! I thought for sure Rothko would be just obscure and overpriced enough to avoid upsetting anyone here. I never argue religion or art but Rothko.......makes me break the silence. I just the other day thought of his paintings because my daughter pooped a soft mustard yellow diaper in a rectangular pattern. She "made a Rothko". I'm with you on banksy, but faith47 is gaining ground. This is actually a pretty neat thread because aside from damage and value we're talking aesthetics. Display is an important part of the hobby. The artistic value and representation of the card(artwork)preserves the history of the sport and era. It's all opinion and none are wrong as long as it doesn't shred upon my purchase.

Haha, I always compared my son’s diapers, and the occasional spray to the wall during a diaper change that went too slow, to Jackson Pollock.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by VintageBen

"The backs of the cards, along with a short bio of the player and some stats, have coupons for the cigarette who pack they were in; Sweet Capital, Piedmont and Polar Bear"


I didn't know that T206's had player bios and stats on the back.... that's news to me.

Just read that too. Never have seen that before. Perhaps these are reprints too.

Also, he has never sold any t206 in the past.
Me thinks photo and cards are reprints.