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Old 08-10-2021, 10:20 AM
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Hi All. Is there a straightforward way to get the date that a card was graded at PSA? You can use the cert number to get an idea, but there was an era where the first digit of the cert number could be anything but cards are in older slabs. At some point they moved to a normal +1 iteration for every new card.

I think the date of the grade is becoming an increasingly important piece of information as grading standards, particularly in the low to mid grades, has sharpened.

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I completely agree with you. For some reason PSA does not provide it as far as I can tell. It is very important. I was buying some KSA cards (yes, KSA) as long as I was able to verify the date. But they stopped providing it, so I won’t buy their cards. PSA I don’t think you would have the same concerns , but nonetheless the date does provide insight .
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Hi All. Is there a straightforward way to get the date that a card was graded at PSA? You can use the cert number to get an idea, but there was an era where the first digit of the cert number could be anything but cards are in older slabs. At some point they moved to a normal +1 iteration for every new card.

I think the date of the grade is becoming an increasingly important piece of information as grading standards, particularly in the low to mid grades, has sharpened.

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Very Good Question and Suggestion.
That could be helpful
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PSA has gone through about 10 different flip designs, I am sure you can find them here or on the web. Won't help too much on some with a wide span but can at least provide some baseline information about range.
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PSA has gone through about 10 different flip designs, I am sure you can find them here or on the web. Won't help too much on some with a wide span but can at least provide some baseline information about range.
I dug this one up, seemed to be the most recent I could find. Date ranges included on some but not all.

https://allvintagecards.com/history-of-psa-flips/
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Flip designs don’t help if the seller re-holders the card.
Plenty of sellers capitalize on that, as a lot of buyers pay for plastic slabs and meaningless assigned numbers
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Flip designs don’t help if the seller re-holders the card.
Plenty of sellers capitalize on that, as a lot of buyers pay for plastic slabs and meaningless assigned numbers
It does if you decide to take the time to catalog cert numbers by flip, for those in the original holders.
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It does if you decide to take the time to catalog cert numbers by flip, for those in the original holders.
John, please explain. If I am buying a red cobb say and its in a shiny new PSA slab, how can determine when it was actually graded? I would have had to have tracked that cert number from the PSA database from the beginning, no?
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I can’t help with the reholder question and from what it seems is the serial numbers are not reliable for dating.

This is a link to a google doc to help date by design, so it is of some help but the reholder issue does water it down.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18pw...88mbcMtsO/view
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John, please explain. If I am buying a red cobb say and its in a shiny new PSA slab, how can determine when it was actually graded? I would have had to have tracked that cert number from the PSA database from the beginning, no?

This is exactly the question at hand.


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If 06000001 is the card you're talking about, and card 06000123 has the flip style normally seen during the 2006 timeframe (just an example, not accurate), then 06000001 was very likely first graded during the same timeframe.

It is possible that the card also received a grade review bump somewhere down the line, but if it has the original cert number you can see the original era it was graded.
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