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Old 05-04-2018, 09:37 PM
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Default Original collection I found in a house I recently purchased in Pennsylvania

There was a door in a closet in one of the upstairs bedrooms that opened into a storage area. It's kind of like an attic but not...lol crawl space?

There were 27 w516 strip cards I believe 4 of them were boxers

86 t206 cards most of them had sweet caporal backs
2 had base ball gum John h. Dockman
1 American Carmel co
2 Piedmont backs
1 polar bear
3 t05 cards gold borders poor condition

12 center pictures of I think they are Hassan triple fold, only 3 cards that I believe go to the triple fold cards but I haven't had time to go through center pictures

19 t227 cards all miners extra backs

43 t219 boxing pugilist cards 1 has Hassan back the rest are miners extra

39 miners extra heroes of history

3 miners extra men and women of history

45 miners extra men of history

104 American Carmel company e123 cards
Also a booklet from P Goldsmith sons co. From 1921 or 22 it talks about the world series in 1921 and how Babe Ruth was a let down only hitting .118 also has images of players and teams that use their uniforms and gloves.
I welcome input/ corrections, I've only been able to research on and off for a few weeks.
I will post the strip cards first. I'll try to post the rest as I get time.
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That's all the strip cards

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congrats on a neat find! more pics please
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e123 you say????? please post players/scans?
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e123 you say????? please post players/scans?
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depending on where in PA you might have just gotten a free house
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I thought American Caramel E123 was actors and actresses.
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I thought American Caramel E123 was actors and actresses.
Peter, you're correct, I think everyone is thinking of Curtis Irelands.

Who were the 2 Dockmans & 1 american caramel baseball?
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I think it's safe to assume, the original owner was a Miners Extra smoker !!!

T219 ME are so much more rare than basic Hassan, nice.

Love to see the T227s .....

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d'oat...I've never seen those e123 actress cards???
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Dochmans top
American Carmel bottom
I'm having a hard time responding it isn't letting me post. Says I'm not authorized...idk

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Unfortunately the kid signed his name to several of these early ones as Edward or his intials E.K.
Some more info on the person as I have found other papers on "Edward, he was born in 1902 graduated high school in 1921.
He became a policeman (found pictures, patches and other materials) the Pennsylvania State motor police.
Also a document (scroll) showing he became a Master Mason "Scottish rite"
I thought it was a neat tid bit.

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d'oat...I've never seen those e123 actress cards???
Cool find, but they aren't paying for the OP's house, even in Pennsylvania.

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I meant the whole find, not the actress cards and it would have to be in a less expensive region in PA like coal country.
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The strip cards are W516, except for the one identified as Pep Young with card # 107 (actually it is Hall of Famer Ross Youngs), which is from the W514 set. Your two Dockman cards are indeed from the E92 set, and the J.T. Meyers American Caramel card is actually from the E91B set, not the E90-1 set which I guessed before.

By the way, the Pep Young W516 card you have does not depict Hall of Famer Ross Youngs, but another player who was nicknamed "Pep" Young.

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I thought this was a t219 boxing pugilist
But it says series #2 51-100
I'm confused a little as the number on the front is 27 idk the back is Hassan

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I thought these were all t219 I may be wrong please correct if so
the next it few have the same number but obviously different people.
Also Edward signed his name on the back

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The rest are without numbers on the front

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The final 20 all are miners extra backs with all but one has Edwards signature on them the other has a number written on it.
If you want to see the backs I will post in response

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The Al Kaufman is a T218 Series of Champion Athletes and Prize Fighters card the rest are T219s. The numbers on the front of the cards are just part of the design (round in the boxing match) and not the card numbers. Both sets used the same artwork on different card sizes.

Nice Abe Attell, my T218 has a crease from top to bottom right through Abe.
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The Al Kaufman is a T218 Series of Champion Athletes and Prize Fighters card the rest are T219s. The numbers on the front of the cards are just part of the design (round in the boxing match) and not the card numbers. Both sets used the same artwork on different card sizes.

Nice Abe Attell, my T218 has a crease from top to bottom right through Abe.
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Let's see some pics of the T206 cards

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Thanks John, I'm going to try and post them in the next few days. I'm pretty busy as I have 2 boys ages 7 almost 8 and a 9 year old playing flag football and minor league baseball I'm also coaching their minor league team. I may post them in groups.
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Here is a group photo of the t206 cards found. Originally I thought it was 86 but I had counted the 3 t205 cards, 2 dockman, and the American Carmel card they are in the upper right corner.

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Very cool. The kid sure worked those cards over but it’s still a great find!

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Nice group of T206's. They always look good laid out like that.
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Thanks for posting pics.
Great Find! Nice Cobb! Enjoy!

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Just read about your find - congrats!

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Amazing find. I saw your story today on sportscollectorsdigest or something along those lines and was amazed. Seems everyone's found a stash like this except for me. Great find.
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Just read this. Congrats on the find.


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Nice score Mase and and thanks for showing them. It is always neat to see cards that were stashed away ...
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Not insinuating that this story is bogus, but what are the odds of a card collector making a find like this? They seem astronomical to me.
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It happens more often than you think. The odds? They're terrible, but there are 350 million people in this country. If the odds are one in a million....
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