63 Topps Rose PSA 9 on Ebay

[CMIZ5290]

This card is at $136K! with many glaring issues for a 9. Ugly white circle P.D. by Rose, noticeable slant centering, and the bottom right corner has a bad touch. Also, P.D.'s in the blue background. Oh by the way, 8 days left! Absolutely unbelievable, and the back is not even well centered!.....No way in Hell this card is a 9, maybe a 7.5, 8 at absolute best...

[Billy5858]

A PSA 9 sold for 19,000 in 2014 per
PSA page ha ha BUBBLE getting ready to burst.
Screw it I'm buying raw cards now. This
Is getting stupid

[4815162342]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311642085300

[ezez420]

Well at least it is real.

[Bigb13]

I think it should be graded a 7 or 7.5

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

This card is at $136K! with many glaring issues for a 9. Ugly white circle P.D. by Rose, noticeable slant centering, and the bottom right corner has a bad touch. Also, P.D.'s in the blue background. Oh by the way, 8 days left! Absolutely unbelievable, and the back is not even well centered!.....No way in Hell this card is a 9, maybe a 7.5, 8 at absolute best...

The Rose has a fair amount of snow in the red as well. But it's a 9, it's a commodity, it doesn't really matter. This is the investment era.

[bxb]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

This card is at $136K! with many glaring issues for a 9. Ugly white circle P.D. by Rose, noticeable slant centering, and the bottom right corner has a bad touch. Also, P.D.'s in the blue background. Oh by the way, 8 days left! Absolutely unbelievable, and the back is not even well centered!.....No way in Hell this card is a 9, maybe a 7.5, 8 at absolute best...

Some people are just buying these for investments or flipping. It doesn't matter if it's a crappy card as long as they can sell it for more later.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by bxb

Some people are just buying these for investments or flipping. It doesn't matter if it's a crappy card as long as they can sell it for more later.

This is true. There's some new money coming into the hobby and it's chasing after the grade on the holder.

That being said, the card in question is still extremely nice. PSA has increasingly tightened up their grading standards over the past several years. They've also done a considerable amount of work/advertising to promote their services and products. The current prices (this card; elsewhere) are no accident.

[HRBAKER]

Nice card, WEAK 9.
Appears to be a newer holder.
Was this done before or after the tightening?
Tilt cut, fish eye right by Rose's name but nice corners.
It doesn't matter - they are not bidding on the card - just the number.

[mintonlyplz]

i would not grade it below an 8. Biggest "eyesore" to me is the slant/tilt. No card is perfect...the print blemishes mentioned are minor. And the corners are strong. Final grade would be an 8...IMHO.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MW1

This is true. There's some new money coming into the hobby and it's chasing after the grade on the holder.

That being said, the card in question is still extremely nice. PSA has increasingly tightened up their grading standards over the past several years. They've also done a considerable amount of work/advertising to promote their services and products. The current prices (this card; elsewhere) are no accident.

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $34,999.00



5/7/16 eBay Listing | Image 07benchwarmers 9***8 BIN $28,900.00
4/23/16 eBay Listing | Image jba-auctions 1***n Best Offer $35,000.00
2/18/16 eBay Listing | Image 71c10 r***a BIN $34,999.00
2/17/16 eBay Listing | Image 71c10 7***r BIN $34,999.00
2/2/15 eBay Image manontherock 3***1 BIN $25,000.00

To me, something else other than new money (which has been around for a while now) and PSA promotion accounts for the off the charts increase from a month ago. 35 to 135 and counting. Uh, OK, whatever. But I am just a cynic, not a staunch defender of the status quo.

[iwantitiwinit]

Hmm Porsche GT3 or Rose rookie card graded psa 9 (a piece of cardboard). This is beyond ridiculous. For some this is not going to end well.

[botn]

Definitely not a nice 9 but it does not matter. The tilt is hard on the eyes and centering at it worst points is probably does not meet the 9 criteria. Wondering if this was reholdered in order to cleanse the flip? Find it hard to believe with the way they are grading right now they would give that anything higher than an 8.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

Definitely not a nice 9 but it does not matter. The tilt is hard on the eyes and centering at it worst points is probably does not meet the 9 criteria. Wondering if this was reholdered in order to cleanse the flip? Find it hard to believe with the way they are grading right now they would give that anything higher than an 8.

funny how some sellers comment about 'newly graded' where you can just get a new flip for a few bucks....

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

This card is at $136K! with many glaring issues for a 9. Ugly white circle P.D. by Rose, noticeable slant centering, and the bottom right corner has a bad touch. Also, P.D.'s in the blue background. Oh by the way, 8 days left! Absolutely unbelievable, and the back is not even well centered!.....No way in Hell this card is a 9, maybe a 7.5, 8 at absolute best...

Let me guess you have a PSA9 OC that you will sell for a little less..

[TheNightmanCometh]

It would be nice if there was a forum where ebay sellers could go to complain about bidders retracting their bids. That way the community could block them as a whole. That works, right? Or can they just change their name and do it again?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

It would be nice if there was a forum where ebay sellers could go to complain about bidders retracting their bids. That way the community could block them as a whole. That works, right? Or can they just change their name and do it again?

they can change their name with new account but feedback would be very small...you can block people under a certain amount of feedback

[Flintboy]

Looks diamond cut to me..........but then again what do I know? PSA only hires the best graders and they never ever make mistakes.........

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

funny how some sellers comment about 'newly graded' where you can just get a new flip for a few bucks....

There is a lot of flip cleansing going on now to give the perception/illusion that the card is graded during a stricter time.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Let me guess you have a PSA9 OC that you will sell for a little less..

You really are an idiot....

[Billy5858]

IMHO the point is not if its overgraded....
Tilt, blemishes blah blah..... Even if it was
A perfect graded 9....... It's effin 135k!!
So a PSA Gem 10 750k? CRAZY!!

[botn]

I am sure that is what the consignor is hoping for

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...umbnail-071515

[Billy5858]

Originally Posted by botn

I am sure that is what the consignor is hoping for

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...umbnail-071515

Oh boy..... Gonna be interesting YIKES!!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Billy5858

Oh boy..... Gonna be interesting YIKES!!

Yea looks like the auction is loaded. 10s of Ryan and the 56 Mantle too. 52 Mays 9. Some nice 52 Mantles. Definitely will be interesting.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Yea looks like the auction is loaded. 10s of Ryan and the 56 Mantle too. 52 Mays 9. Some nice 52 Mantles. Definitely will be interesting.

The 1952 Topps Willie Mays, PSA 9, comes from Lionel Carter's set.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $34,999.00



5/7/16 eBay Listing | Image 07benchwarmers 9***8 BIN $28,900.00
4/23/16 eBay Listing | Image jba-auctions 1***n Best Offer $35,000.00
2/18/16 eBay Listing | Image 71c10 r***a BIN $34,999.00
2/17/16 eBay Listing | Image 71c10 7***r BIN $34,999.00
2/2/15 eBay Image manontherock 3***1 BIN $25,000.00

To me, something else other than new money (which has been around for a while now) and PSA promotion accounts for the off the charts increase from a month ago. 35 to 135 and counting. Uh, OK, whatever. But I am just a cynic, not a staunch defender of the status quo.

+1
I agree with that cynic part of you Peter. And do not discount PSA promotion in this. Guaranteed this card will become a centerpiece of some new ad campaign for them. Bidding up this card can only help their corporate card grading image. And based on the flaws of a tiny piece of cardboard that I am reading about here, there was some PSA self interest in giving this card this grade.

[nsaddict]

And Pete just breaks 150K, as the top 2 bidders are no strangers to bid retractions. But no surprise!

[Scocs]

I don't know which of these two scenarios is more absurd: PSA 9 Rose sells for $150k or that the same seller is offering up a 1986 Wilbur Marshall for $6k!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Topps-2...0AAOSwvg9Xd1AD

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Scocs

I don't know which of these two scenarios is more absurd: PSA 9 Rose sells for $150k or that the same seller is offering up a 1986 Wilbur Marshall for $6k!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Topps-2...0AAOSwvg9Xd1AD

i believe the seller is a board member...ask him!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Scocs

I don't know which of these two scenarios is more absurd: PSA 9 Rose sells for $150k or that the same seller is offering up a 1986 Wilbur Marshall for $6k!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Topps-2...0AAOSwvg9Xd1AD

I know nothing about football cards but the seller has been know to accidently make pricing errors before.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I know nothing about football cards but the seller has been know to accidently make pricing errors before.

maybe its low pop card

[Republicaninmass]

Zing!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Zing!

I was going to add more but copyright infringement stopped me.

[Scocs]

Ok, 1986 Topps Wilbur Marshall card PSA 10 pop: 3

Isn't it a $.50 card if I was even looking for one in the common bins?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Ok, 1986 Topps Wilbur Marshall card PSA 10 pop: 3

Isn't it a $.50 card if I was even looking for one in the common bins?

isnt that true for almost psa 10 card in the 1980s-90s-00s etc if the card is raw..

[Scocs]

You wanna make an argument for it being a $500 card in PSA 10? I will still laugh though I can at least follow the logic. But $6,000?!?!

Part of the reason the pop is 3 is....who in his right mind is sending mid to late 1980s Topps football COMMONS into PSA for grading? It's not like 1933 Goudey commons....

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I tried this argument in another thread in reference to a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg PSA 10 for $2500. I got nowhere, don't bother.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Ok, 1986 Topps Wilbur Marshall card PSA 10 pop: 3

Isn't it a $.50 card if I was even looking for one in the common bins?

I understand from some insiders that PSA isn't giving out many 9s and 10s anymore. So in essence they are manufacturing value with their (lack of) grading high grade cards the way they should be.