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[Old Mill Man]

Well I'm hungry so for now it's Good Bye ;-)

[Donavon]

Is it Golden Belt....the former packaging & distributing company for the ATC?

[Old Mill Man]

Golden Baseball

[Leon]

Hold the presses for a minute!!!! There is a judge's ruling coming within the next 7 minutes.

[martyogelvie]

Gump and Berkett

[Leon]

the ruling is still being deliberated......a 5 minute to 10 minute extension is asked for and granted.

[Leon]

I just added a 10 minute poll to this thread. Once those approx 10 minutes are up then a decision will be made on the rest of the contest

edited to add I am giving the poll until about 11:40am CST....the majority will win the decision and then we can resume the contest....

[baseballart]

Piggybacking guess

Gold & Belt

[barrysloate]

How can you guess if you don't know? It's like encountering a stranger and trying to guess what his name is...this contest is too hard.

[baseballart]

Barry

If you know, how can you guess?

[jcmtiger]

Gilbert & Brown

[Leon]

We have a winner for what "G & B" (E223) - stands for


Based on the poll at 11:42 the vote was 8 to 10 in favor of there not needing to be the exact spelling. We have a winner. Jamie Hull guessed:

Greene & Blackwell


and the answer, according to the ACC, 1960 (last) update, page 107, is:

Green & Blackwell of N.Y.

Jamie - Congratulations and we can communicate through email for your winnings.

Thanks to all who played. Believe it or not it's not real easy to "stump the members" with "1" question.

[jcmtiger]

Or Gilbert & Browne

[jcmtiger]

Well, I have the 1953 ACC and could not find it there. Of course I usually can't find anything in the ACC catalog.

Joe

[Leon]

One question for J.Hull

Did you find the answer in the ACC or some place else? You won regardless if you want to answer this question or not. That was pretty tough just to have in your head for trivia....?

edited to respond to jcmtiger- that is why I did reference the year and page of the ACC. I found out the hard way that they aren't all exactly the same.

[DixieBaseball]

Glee & Brown

[Leon]

Maybe we should take a poll on how long people will continue guessing since the contest has been over?

[barrysloate]

I would like to continue guessing, if you don't mind.

[tbob]

Gum and Blew?

[tbob]

Green and Blew?
Ooops, the contest is over

[ksfarmboy]

Barry, I think Leon should have another contest to guess what flavor the G&B gum was. I'm going with Tutti Frutti.

Clint

[jimonym]

Hi Leon. Sorry, I was out for a few hours.

Nope, didn't look at the ACC. I did a few searches online and found a newspaper article (the first one posted here). I figured they had the right initials, were from NY, and if they'd been enterprising enough to get up an illegal lottery scheme, well, then they'd be just the type of fellows to try inserting baseball cards a few years later.

When I saw I'd won, I went back to try to find the darn article. I stumbled on another article (the second one posted here), and it has the correct spelling of their names.

Both are from March 2, 1884. No. 1 from the New York Sun. No. 2 from the New York Daily Tribune.

Jamie

[Leon]

I only get little red x's for your links. I would actually like to see them. Can you send them to me via email at leonl@flash.net ? We can talk more about your winnings too..nice thought process and thanks again

[jimonym]

Hmmm.

Email sent.

So from the articles it's possible G&B were not manufacturers (at least in 1884) but instead were retailers or wholesalers.

[Leon]

I think, as in most other early sets, the mfg of the physical card was different than the distributor.

[Matt]

Jamie - the images are showing OK for me - what did you search by?

[Bill Stone]

Green & Blacks