1970s baseball pinbacks

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

By the way, the early 1970s set, with the black nameplates, includes some of the same Cubs images as the 1971 set

You're right, they also reused the images on the Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, and Billy Williams pins. I wouldn't be surprised if they also did it with at least Glenn Beckert. Note that both Jenkins and Kessinger have their names misspelled.

[ooo-ribay]

You are "on it," Cliff! Latest list looks like:

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

You're right, they also reused the images on the Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, and Billy Williams pins. I wouldn't be surprised if they also did it with at least Glenn Beckert. Note that both Jenkins and Kessinger have their names misspelled.

But there were two different poses of Kessinger.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by MK

But there were two different poses of Kessinger.

Yes, there were two different pins of a handful of Cubs, Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Ron Santo. My theory is that one of each are 1973 issues and the other half are 1974 issues. I believe the misspelled Hooton, misspelled Kessinger, misspelled Jenkins (Cubs), Santo (Cubs), closeup Cardenal, and closeup Monday are 1973 issues, and the correct Hooton, correct Kessinger, correct Jenkins (Rangers), Santo (White Sox), wide shot Cardenal, and wide shot Monday are 1974 issues.

[MK]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Yes, there were two different pins of a handful of Cubs, Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Ron Santo. My theory is that one of each are 1973 issues and the other half are 1974 issues. I believe the misspelled Hooton, misspelled Kessinger, misspelled Jenkins (Cubs), Santo (Cubs), closeup Cardenal, and closeup Monday are 1973 issues, and the correct Hooton, correct Kessinger, correct Jenkins (Rangers), Santo (White Sox), wide shot Cardenal, and wide shot Monday are 1974 issues.

Yes, but they used the same photo for the Cardenal, Hooten, Monday pins in the other issues, but the Kessinger is an entirely different pose. The Jenkins and Santo changed teams so they had to use different photos.

[ooo-ribay]

Without doing any real research....based on my "gut"....the Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

[71buc]

Thanks Rob, I picked up an Ernie Banks and Frank Robinson last week. I see 11 total HOF members total on the list of known pins. Are any of them more difficult to find than the others?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by 71buc

Thanks Rob, I picked up an Ernie Banks and Frank Robinson last week. I see 11 total HOF members total on the list of known pins. Are any of them more difficult to find than the others?

Not sure. Nothing matters except the Giants!

[71buc]

Sorry Rob no Giants or Bucs for that matter! I picked up these two last week they arrived today.

[thansen30]

looks like you got the 3" matte Ernie Banks and the 3.5" glossy Robinson.
I consider the 3" version to be the "standard" for this series, based on the theory that the pin I bought outside of Wrigley in 1971 was the 3" Pepitone.
you'll notice that the 3.5" versions aren't as sharp, and have a gloss laminate on them; also there is an additional 3.5" version that uses different signatures; these are decidedly inferior, especially when you compare them with the 3" beauties with the brown ink signatures
ALL of them are scarce, frankly. some of the players listed above are evidenced by only a single known example

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Without doing any real research....based on my "gut"....the Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

Luis Aparicio and Billy Williams are HOFer’s , Vida Blue, Boog Powell, and Frank Howard are not. Also, Tom Hansen discovered the Maury Wills Dodgers pin recently and it needs to be added to the checklist.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Luis Aparicio and Billy Williams are HOFer’s , Vida Blue, Boog Powell, and Frank Howard are not.

But Harold Baines is. SMH.

New list:

Hall of Famers have been bolded.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen, Wills.

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Who needs to be added/deleted?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

But Harold Baines is. SMH.

If Baines was in this set would you have bolded him?

[Cliff Bowman]

Time to update the checklist, ooo-ribay. I figured that there were more White Sox considering how many Cubs there are, and I found a eBay listing where someone got a steal on a large lot of them, $30. I would have been sick if it was Cubs instead. The new players are Mike Andrews, Tom Bradley, and Ed Hermann. I would suspect there are a few more White Sox to be discovered. ETA: I just noticed that the White Sox pins have severe rusting on the back but it was still a good deal.