McLain and Sain…..Perfect together.....Should Johnny Sain be in the Hall of Fame ?

[frankbmd]

Would anybody in favor of his inclusion in the Hall of Fame be considered insane?

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Would anybody in favor of his inclusion in the Hall of Fame be considered insane?

Actually, I think that is the gold standard test.

[tedzan]

Hey you "nay-sayers".....how much do you really know about Johnny Sain's career in Baseball ? ?

I saw him Pitch (1947-1955) and I followed his Coaching career (1961-1975)…. and unless you did too, you're not knowledgeable enough to form an opinion.

Anyhow, check-out these successes......

Whitey Ford was 25-4 (1961) and 24-7 (1963) with Sain as his new coach. Prior to those years, Whitey had not won 20 games.

Jim Bouton in his 2nd year with the Yankees was 21-7, which he credited Johnny Sain for his success.

Jim Katt won 25 games for the 1966 Minnesota Twins. Won 21 (1974) and 20 (1975) with the White Sox. Sain was his pitching coach on both these teams.

Goose Gossage racked up 20-33 Saves per season 10 times. In his autobiography he credits Johnny Sain (1972-1975) for his success on the mound.

And, there are many more successes that I can name. Anyhow, as I said in post #1 here, the most notable one is Denny McLain. It's a shame that Sain did
not stay with Detroit, for I think he would have kept McLain on the straight track.



1947 BOND BREAD rookie card


Look guys, there are Pitchers in the HOF that have considerably less numbers than JohnnySain….. Tom Lasorda for example.

But, of course he's in as a Manager. Then why not induct Sain into the HOF as one of the most effective pitching coaches in BB history ? ?



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[JustinD]

"And, there are many more successes that I can name. Anyhow, as I said in post #1 here, the most notable one is Denny McLain. It's a shame that Sain did
not stay with Detroit, for I think he would have kept McLain on the straight track"

There is no way to have kept that POS on a good track. He is a criminal and should still be sitting in a cell for life. It's simply amazing that people talk about Rose, ARod and the ilk in such tones around here. But commit numerous crimes and defraud pensioners of millions leaving the elderly homeless and you are ok. McClain is likely one of the worst people to have ever played the game. No one ever received more second chances and deserved none. Not arguing it more, as a tiger fan I wish he was wiped from our legacy.

[ElCabron]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Would anybody in favor of his inclusion in the Hall of Fame be considered insane?

Yes.

[RedsFan1941]

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