show me some orange borders......uh..er..T210's

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Posted By: leon

Loving the esoteric cards, and seeing Todd's very nice T210 in the SGC holder, made me think of these. These would look better in SGC holders too but I doubt I will pay to have them redone...I know they are legit and unaltered.....It's also sort of interesting to see the different shades of orange these come in. If anyone has a yellow bordered one I am in need (I have seen a few)....anyone care to show another orange border?

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Posted By: JimB

What, no quarter?
JimB

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Posted By: leon

Hey Jim
Nice catch.....it's rough times and I had to spend it!!

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

these times have made Leon leaner and meaner--mess with him and you'll get no quarter.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Here's the only one I kept of the few I had...

I first posted just a scan of the Gordon, Waco card, but he didn't look very orange, so I rescanned with Revelle from series 2 beside him.






Difficult to refer to this as a Old Mill red border card.


And I'd love to see Leon's quarter slabbed one day...

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Posted By: John

Leon, nice orange T210's!

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Have we tried this before? Are all players available in orange, or just a few? I used to think the latter... And I think all of the series 3 cards are available with red borders.

FW

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Posted By: Jeremy

with a pinkish hue...

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Leon,
Here's one for you... Be well Brian


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Posted By: leon

My understanding is that only series 3 come in orange. I would guess that all of the players in that series will be available in orange. I have also seen many series 3 cards that were more faded than orange. While there are different shades of orange, as evidenced by my first post, I think they are quite different looking than the regular red ones or even the washed out looking red ones.....I don't think we have ever tried to show each of the series 3 in orange before....It is interestsing to see the different shades. Also, as I said I have seen 1-2 yellows also. I mean these cards I saw were bright yellow!!

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Posted By: Jeff S.

This is a fantasy piece I whipped up...

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Posted By: Matt

NICE!

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Posted By: peter ullman

more like...HOLY MOLY!

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Posted By: Martin Neal

They may be my favorite card of all time! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted By: robert a

Nice photoshop work on the Jackson.


Jeremy,

There's another Slaven floating around with yellow borders. He must've been printed towards the end of the run when the ink started to run out.

Rob

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Posted By: J.McMurry

I would really like to start collecting series 5 from this set,as it has my home town and surrounding cities. Would appreciate any info on series 5.

Is it super rare?
Thanks

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Posted By: Jeff S.

Busted - that was my fantasy contribution for the day. Enjoy.

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Posted By: Jeremy

Rob... I agree - I think my Slaven was a mild-pigment loss release... I believe I have seen that Yellow one float around as well... I edited my earlier post to draw contrast with another series 3...

~ Jeremy ~

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

My favorite printing goofs. Love the neon orange borders these have. I enjoy them so much that I began the certain-to-be lifelong task of trying to build the entire series 3 set with just orange bordered cards. This would be going a bit easier if I didn't always have to compete with Leon on winning these

Here are some scans for you all. The Thebo Leon posted is the yellowest t210 I've ever seen. If this is not a "yellow", I'm not sure what is as I haven't seen anything that beats the Thebo in color. The Slaven I used to have is pretty similar though. I posted a scan of the Slaven as well as some of the t210 oranges I still have.

From my understanding, not every card in series 3 has an orange variant. I've only been able to locate maybe 14-16 players in this color. I track the cards as I see them come up for sale so I try to keep a record of every t210 orange or yellow bordered card out there.

Basically I believe these came into being because certain sheets of t210s missed the red color pass during the original print run. They're fascinating to see in person because the orange color is not a reddish orange or anything that's a subtle difference. They are a bright, neon orange which really sort of looks awesome on the cards.

By the way, check out the Jones in the scan below - in the upper, left corner. It's sort of a orange-yellowish hybrid of a card!

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Posted By: leon

John Esch, a fellow N.Texan and friend, has a T210 that is a very bright yellow...like the Jackson above. It's completely different than any posted so far. I really like obscure stuff and these fall into that category....good luck in the hunt.......regards

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Great cards, great info, Brian!!!

What you say about 14 - 16 possible oranges is consistent with what is in the back of my mind. But who knows? Have any been posted here so far that is new to your list of possibles??

FW

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Jeff,

That is an awesome Jackson... love it. Thanks for sharing.

marty

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Posted By: Anonymous

Heh, I still see people complimenting that Jackson...don't forget guys that the card's been 'shopped. But it was a very nice job though, that color does look pretty authentic!

Frank, I had most of the cards recorded already. No new players shown in this thread but Jeremy's Slaven was a specific card I had not recorded as of yet. The condition of all the cards is varied too. I have some beaters recorded, such as those that you see in my collection, however I have a couple SGC 60s recorded as well, which are the highest grades I have recorded for a t210 orange border. I think there's a PSA 5 too on my list.

I've got a large task in front of me trying to get as far along with this set as I can - only allowing orange bordered cards. So far I only have 9 different players and unfortunately, Series 3 just happens to be the largest t210 set with 95 cards in it grumble. So I've got over 90% of the set still to find... sigh. I'm paying pretty aggressive prices if anyone's willing to part with any though!

One interesting tidbit is while I've only come across 14-16 different players overall, I've found 3 different Slavens and 3 different Firestines. There are multiple examples of several other players too - Johnston, Curry, Gordon, etc... The significance of this is that we know for sure that there were multiple sheets of these that missed the red coloring during their original print run - not just one isolated sheet. I'll keep looking and keep tracking them....pretty interesting. If anybody out there reading this has any orange borders, I'd appreciate hearing from you so I can record them on my "population tracking database".

Thanks guys!

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Posted By: Bob

Someone already posted an orange T210 Gordon but I have one in an SGC 40 holder, for your database.
tbob

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Great info, Shammus. But a question for you. What if the orange bordered T210s were printed in sheets of 48, 16 different cards on there 3 times each?? Then there could have been only one orange sheet. I doubt that is what happened, but it is a possibility counter to your hypothesis.


I agree and think there were a few sheets where the red diminished to orange, and eventually a yellow one, then they stopped the press.


I'd deduce from 3 of some players in your small sampling that if you're already seeing 3 of some guys in series 3 and none of most of the others, then statistically there are probably some cards with orange, and some that were not printed that way.


What we need is for everyone who has an orange card, or knows of one, to get it posted here. Wish I'd kept up with the orange ones I sold years ago.

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Posted By: Troy Kirk

I have three of them, Gordon, Nagel, and Slaven.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

On the Gordon cards, I see that is a catcher's mitt in his right hand. What is that box in his left hand?? I wanted to think it was a rosin bag, but it is definitely a box. What is that?

Frank W.

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Posted By: leonl

Someone else might know for sure but it could be a brush to brush off dirt in his cleats....though I am not sure I have ever seen that type of device on the baseball field....

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Posted By: Matt

Maybe a new ball in a box?