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Old 06-23-2017, 09:28 AM
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Default Pre-1870 Baseball Memorabilia

Leon's recent acquisition of a baseball ambrotype got me thinking about how rare pre-Civil War baseball, or should I say base ball, memorabilia is. We're talking 1861 or earlier. Let's see what you've got. Amended to encompass pre-1870.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:00 AM
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1859 advertising pages for Mayhew and Baker, Ballplayer's Pocket Companion, contained in Pycroft's, Cricket Field. These pages are exact facsimiles of the actual ones. It may take me a couple posts. My edition of the actual Ballplayer's Pocket Companion is 1861, but was George Wright's copy. Maybe not pre Civil War, but I will try to post it also. Great topic, as usual Gary. Sorry missing a photo.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:02 AM
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Missing photo from above, I hope.
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:41 PM
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Circa 1850s / 1860s belted ball...while they did co-exist for a time, this style was one that pre-dated the lemon peel ball.

For a peek at our of our 19th C. holding, please visit our website...

http://dugouttreasures.com/product.cfm?sID=4

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Old 06-23-2017, 02:49 PM
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George Wright's copy of the 1861 Ballplayer's Pocket Companion. Sorry, don't know how to straighten them.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:35 PM
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This ought to be a great thread. I don't know how long it will last as im not sure how much pre (civil) war material still exists, but I'm looking forward to it!
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I am so happy with this thread I decided to unlock this 1869/1870 cdv of Cal McVey (thank you Mark Fimoff for confirming the Id). This is one of only 2 individual Cincinnati Red Stockings in uniform that I have ever seen, although I am sure there must be more somewhere. (Requests to see more on this site have not yet produced results). The photographer is Broadhurst from Philadelphia. I will post the other later.
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Now that's one I've never seen! Great cdv.
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1867 scorebook.

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Rob-Accushnett must have been really good. They played without a Left Fielder and still won the game.
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Rob-Accushnett must have been really good. They played without a Left Fielder and still won the game.
... they put up 23 runs in the sixth inning alone. Other team must have cried "Uncle" at that point or else it got dark cuz they stopped it after six complete.
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:43 AM
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Default Early (earliest??) individual Harry Wright in baseball uniform

Harry Wright cdv (see also McVey above) by Broadhurst of Philadelphia, 1869/1870 (no goatee may make it late 1869 or 1870).
1 of 2 individual Red Stockings photos in uniform I have ever seen. I am not saying it is unique, I am just not aware of any others. (It is earlier than the recent Boston cdv sold by Heritage and described as the earliest in uniform I think). It appeared in a 1996 VCBC article, but I am not sure if anywhere else.
The second photo shows Harry with a Graig Kreindler study. Thanks to Graig I am able to see Harry every day rather than special occasions.
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Harry Wright cdv (see also McVey above) by Broadhurst of Philadelphia, 1869/1870 (no goatee may make it late 1869 or 1870).
1 of 2 individual Red Stockings photos in uniform I have ever seen. I am not saying it is unique, I am just not aware of any others. (It is earlier than the recent Boston cdv sold by Heritage and described as the earliest in uniform I think). It appeared in a 1996 VCBC article, but I am not sure if anywhere else.
The second photo shows Harry with a Graig Kreindler study. Thanks to Graig I am able to see Harry every day rather than special occasions.
Wow Bruce! Amazing.
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Really great stuff everyone. I want to keep the thread and I apologize in advance if these were posted before, but they fit the thread.
First is a stereoview of a game at Amherst. My research puts it circa 1865. Amherst has it in its collection as an example of the Massachusetts game, but later research by Sabr has it as regular base ball.
Sorry, my photos seem to always be upside down.
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Another pre 1870 stereoview, generic game in front of schoolhouse, that reminds me of a lesser version of a photo Leon has posted in the past
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1868 Chadwick related handbill/broadside previously written up by Carlton
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Stereoview Central Park
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Wow some of those committee names on the Newark Base Ball Club Hop photo from Gary Passamonte appear to be descended from some of the wealthiest landowners in southern New York and Northern New Jersey. F. Pell from the Pell family landed in NY in the 1600's and owned much of the Bronx and southern Westchester County which now includes Pelham and Pelham Manor, New Rochelle, Eastchester part of Yonkers etc. The Van Houtens, Cranes and Hoppers owned much of the land encompassing the Meadowlands area in Northern, NJ up through Hackensack and surroundings towns. Most date back to original land grants from the English. Amazing where these folks popped up in those days...
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Here's one of my old favorites. It is almost a piece of folk art.
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That is really neat.
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My Understanding was that Harry Wright and his traveling Cincinnati Red legs played the Baltimore Enterprise ball club. So an early ticket from a team with a place in baseball and specifically Baltimore baseball history.
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One of the few pins that I own
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:59 PM
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Well I have always admired the 1894 Baltimore pin. Since you posted it in a post where it is slightly (24 years) off topic. I am feeling a bit of Baltimore pride coming from you . Did you grow up there or just a fan? I saw there was a book written on Baseball in Baltimore before 1894. I hope to get a copy and read it soon. Great pin.
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Jonathan, the 1868 Red Stockings played the Enterprises team on September 25, winning 24 to 3, with Harry Wright.
The famous 1869 team did not play the Enterprises, but did play two Teams from Baltimore, the Pastimes and the Marylands, beating both 30 to 8.
Glad you could connect the Enterprises item to the Baltimore team.
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Don't know if I posted this here but this is my invitation to the Una Base Ball Club's Calico Party on February 6, 1868. Unfortunately I missed the carriage and could not attend:



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