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Old 05-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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I assume if it were sent back to PSA for re-holder it wouldn't make a difference?
who knows? I once had a cracker jack floating around in an over-sized PSA holder (but at least it had a mylar sleeve to help keep it in place) that I sent in for re-holdering and it came back in a perfect fitting holder.
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:42 AM
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This is Joe Tinker not Frank Chance ...ugh


http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...100&category=1
What the hell is going on at SGC with photographs???? They shouldn't have anyone in their employ who can not tell the difference between Frank Chance and Joe Tinker. I don't care if it was submitted as Frank Chance they should know better...I hope this was slabbed prior to their issue with the JL Wilkinson postcard because they were going to be a lot more careful with photo identification.
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I just like how "ink color" can lead to both a big debate and huge price differences. The crazy minds of collectors.
Yea, I don't understand it either. Was it a difference in manufacturing process in why the colors are different? Or more like a print "error" issue like the Nodgrass where they just ran out of a certain ink or the stamping of the card was slightly different?
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:06 PM
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On a positive note, I like how Goodwin has three separate watchlists: Winning, losing, and watching. And the winning list adds up your totals. This makes it very easy to keep track of things, I wish other auction houses did this (REA).

I'm with glchen and Bicem, I love T206's, and even different backs, but I don't give a crap about a slight difference in ink color, its pretty ridiculous to me, but whatever floats your boat.
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Anyone have any idea why the starting bid on the PSA 4 T-206 lundgren (Kansas city) has a starting bid of $200? That starting bid is higher than any documented sale price of that card, which is a common. It sells regularly for $60-80 on eBay with a few low to mid $100s sprinkled in...
I'm reposting this because it didn't get a response the first time. Is this starting bid high because the consigner wishes it that way or am I missing something completely?
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:26 PM
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It is definitely Joe Tinker and looking at the background you can see he isn't playing first base as Chance would be. Unbelievable the grading company and auction house would both miss this.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:29 PM
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I've never been in the auction or printing business but doesn't the "proofing" usually take place before the printing.
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JP- yes, $200 for a Lundgren, Kansas City is too high, and it looks like there is some confusion between the Chicago and KC team variations.
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What the hell is going on at SGC with photographs???? They shouldn't have anyone in their employ who can not tell the difference between Frank Chance and Joe Tinker. I don't care if it was submitted as Frank Chance they should know better...I hope this was slabbed prior to their issue with the JL Wilkinson postcard because they were going to be a lot more careful with photo identification.


As to the auction house, from what I've seen from some of them, they just don't recognize the faces of significant early ballplayers. And - that photo is not "turn of the century" as Goodwin is hyping it - it is 1906.

This reminds me of the 1906 Library of Congress photo below which had been labeled as Joe Tinker for over 100 years. It even passed one round of SABR scrutiny before finally being corrected.
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Is it just me or does the left edge look odd?
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...100&category=1
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Is it just me or does the left edge look odd?
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...100&category=1
I didn't realize there was a photo of the card. I'm still on Chapter 3 of the written description.
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I didn't realize there was a photo of the card. I'm still on Chapter 3 of the written description.
Look at the enlarged scan, left edge middle to bottom?
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Well, birthdays are merely symbolic of how another year has gone by and
how little we've grown. No matter how desperate we are that someday a better
self will emerge, with each flicker of the candles on the cake, we know it's not
to be, that for the rest of our sad, wretched pathetic lives, this is who we are
to the bitter end. Inevitably, irrevocably; happy birthday? No such thing.
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Wondering if SGC has come to verdict as to if the card is a new Brown variant or not?

Anyone know?
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Any updates on the card Scott?
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Anybody receive their Goodwin winnings yet?
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I got mine David.....
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Got mine about 10 days ago.
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