Are Older SGC Graded Cards Valued Less?

[wazoo]

The title says it all.

For example...the SGC cases with stickers compared to the ones that don't have them.

[DeanH3]

I think SGC labels that do not have the two different numbers on them might be looked at differently. I thought I remember SGC saying at one time their guarantee did not cover those cards without the two grades. I could be wrong so hopefully someone will chime in and correct me if I am wrong. Personally, I avoid SGC cards with the single grade on them.

Edit to add: I think SGC cards with the two grades AND a sticker on the back do not carry a lesser value.

[irishdenny]

Hey there Wazoo,

What I Believe/Know and my experience with the 1st year SGC was in Business.

From the Watermarked Front Background Label, to the Gold Label on the Back Era of SGC... Not to mention Names! However, I was told that they had an Employee that somewhat over graded cards.

If You think about it though, Buying the Card and Not the Grade, Surly Clears it All up!

SGC Has Been the Most Honorable Company that I've Ever Done Business with!

My Experience with them, to me ~ "Says it ALL!"

One of my earliest adventures was with "The Golden Label". I purchased a T200 of The NY Nationals. I was told it was an Exceptional SGC60/5. Exactly what I was looking for! I didn't get to see it til it arrived at my doorstep, at the time I trusted the gentleman who had it & sold it to me. When it arrived, I liked the Card, However, It was Not Exceptional as I was led to believe.

So, After a little go around with the seller... Lets just say the card remained in my possession. I read SGC's Site, Contacted them... The end result was that they re~Slabbed it into a SGC40/3 and Refunded me the 1000+ dollars over the then market value at that time!
"I was Shocked!!!"

The Head Grader told me that SGC was in the process of making things Right...

I don't know what else to Say... I know that I could of been satisfied with the Card in the 1st place... After SGC asked me to send them a scan... They told me of their intention's... I just followed their advice from that moment on!

Their Counsel & Outcome... Was far from what I had ever imagined!

[CMIZ5290]

Waz- Based upon my experience, I actually think SGC was extremely strict in their grading during their initial years. I do not think there is a difference in value, not at all. Furthermore, if you try to review and bump and old SGC graded card, worst scenario is they would encapsulate it with a new holder if it did not bump...

[wonkaticket]

Waz,

Different experiences I guess. I find the early grades back when I think Derek was around were a bit more forgiving. Under Scott I think they are a bit tougher especially on cards EXMT or better. On the VG-VGEX they have been pretty stable.

P.S. Waz, Meow.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Which old label are we talking about, there are two. One from before Waz was born probably LOL.

[RGold]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Waz- Based upon my experience, I actually think SGC was extremely strict in their grading during their initial years. I do not think there is a difference in value, not at all. Furthermore, if you try to review and bump and old SGC graded card, worst scenario is they would encapsulate it with a new holder if it did not bump...

Now on BST, I wonder who might be trying to sell an expensive T206 Cy Young in an old SGC holder?

Waz, ignore Kevin's post. He's wrong, and he knows better. Dean's post is accurate.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by RGold

Now on BST, I wonder who might be trying to sell an expensive T206 Cy Young in an old SGC holder?

Waz, ignore Kevin's post. He's wrong, and he knows better. Dean's post is accurate.

Hmmm. Funny you say that Ron, because I just recently crossed an older graded SGC 86 to an 88 holder. Maybe that was an isolated example Also, are you saying an older graded card won't cross to a new holder??

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by RGold

Now on BST, I wonder who might be trying to sell an expensive T206 Cy Young in an old SGC holder?

Waz, ignore Kevin's post. He's wrong, and he knows better. Dean's post is accurate.

Also, for the record, before all the comments and arrows come flying...The SGC Young I have is a solid 86, Three NM-MT corners with one that is NM. The card is accurately graded in my opinion....thanks

[RGold]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Waz- Based upon my experience, I actually think SGC was extremely strict in their grading during their initial years. I do not think there is a difference in value, not at all. Furthermore, if you try to review and bump and old SGC graded card, worst scenario is they would encapsulate it with a new holder if it did not bump...

Kevin-

A nice young man asked a question, and your three sentence response had three false statements. In fact, your response was the exact opposite of what is well known by most everyone in the hobby.

1. It is known throughout the hobby that the earliest graded SGC cards, graded by Joe Merkel and in the old "SG" holders, were overgraded by today's standards.

2. There is a difference in value. Cards in old SGC holders regularly sell for less because it is known throughout the hobby that SGC does not extend its guarantee to these cards.

3. If you want to switch a card that is in an old holder into a new holder, SGC will treat that as a crossover like it would a card from another grading company. They will not "worst scenario" just encapsulate the card into a new holder at the same grade or better.

So yes, I was, as you put it, discontent with your response. Pissed, in fact, that you couldn't give a straight and honest answer.

By the way, thank you so much for buying my many overgraded cards. I know you have a keen eye, so I appreciate that you were so kind to buy such horrible cards just to help me out. And to think, even though the cards were so overgraded, you just kept right on buying them. What a guy!

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by RGold

By the way, thank you so much for buying my many overgraded cards. I know you have a keen eye, so I appreciate that you were so kind to buy such horrible cards just to help me out. And to think, even though the cards were so overgraded, you just kept right on buying them. What a guy!

LMAO! Now that's funny.