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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Hal Lewis
My thoughts: |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Or Maybe
Just a thought. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Todd Schultz
If I were his or his employer's attorney, I would recommend that it be deleted from any published bio, even if true, unless the Masters degree is in something that pretty cleanly ties into authentication (is there such a degree available?). Otherwise, it creates at least an impression in the minds of the uninformed that a pertinent degree exists which by itself helps to somehow elevate Mr. Bushing's standing. I would not want to give a prospective disgruntled customer ammunition to say that he relied upon the degree in the bio as carrying some significance, and be left to fight over whether that reliance was reasonable, unless the degree was in fact germane to the service Bushing was being asked to perform. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
Did any of you ever rely on Bushing's claim that he had an unspecified Master's degree? Obviously not. So WHO CARES?? There is plenty of material out there for conspiracy theorists and get-a-lifers (and I include myself in those categories at least sometimes), but come on. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
Joe P.'s post was a JOKE -- "BS" -- get it? Well enjoy the witchhunt. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: al davis
his position as a so-called expert is based on his credibility and honesty. he has clearly attempted to mislead the public by obviously implying that his degree lends relevance to his ability to authenticate. as far as i'm concerned, there can be no doubt that this type of behavior is part of his character and extends into all of his dealings. to think otherwise would be naive. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
WOW we have now psychoanalyzed Dave Bushing, and concluded that dishonesty infects all his business dealings, based on a poster's representation that Mastro's website description of him was changed (and without any knowledge whatsoever about whether Mr. Bushing was involved in the original description or the change, or, in fact, whether Mr. Bushing does indeed have a Master's Degree). Nice. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Todd Schultz
leaving it in there serves no useful puropse that I can see, and can simply lead to all this utter speculation, and potentially claims of reliance? Did he or didn't he; what kind of degree, what level of degree, etc. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Where did this go:? |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: davidcycleback
How about this. If and when you find out he doesn't have a masters degree you come back and report that he doesn't have a masters. Until that time, I don't understand the point of having a thread based on the premise "I don't know and haven't looked into it, but it might be possible that some guy doesn't have a masters." |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Wesley
Have you considered David's method? Perhaps you should confirm this before bashing a the guy on a public fourm. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Wesley
You are questioning a man's credibility and integrity. Even posed as a hypothetical, that can be damaging to his reputation. Do what you want. I would have tried to call SCDA or Bushing before posting. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Questioning a man's credibility, who trades primarilly on his credibility, appears to me to be a legitimate inquiry. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: leon
BTW, my degree is in General Studies....so that makes me an expert in nothing and I can prove it .......later |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
The comparison in the first post in the thread, it appears to me, is between two different websites, not a "before and after" from the same website. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: davidcycleback
I wrote articles for two different publications where the editor added a brief bio of the the author (me). For one, the editor asked me to write a short bio. For the other, the editor wrote the bio on his initiative and I didn't know there was a bio until I saw it published. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Howie
When Did You Stop Beating Your Wife? |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Wesley
Indeed. I have given seminars where I have specifically emailed my curriculum vitae. When introduced, the hosts inadvertently changed or added things not in my CV. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Aaron
"WOW we have now psychoanalyzed Dave Bushing, and concluded that dishonesty infects all his business dealings, based on a poster's representation that Mastro's website description of him was changed (and without any knowledge whatsoever about whether Mr. Bushing was involved in the original description or the change, or, in fact, whether Mr. Bushing does indeed have a Master's Degree). Nice." |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
I am bothered if significant alterations are made to cards but not disclosed. I expressed those concerns with regard to the Keeler card a while back. But even assuming Mastro changed the description of Mr. Bushing's biography, and I see no evidence of that given that the comparison posted here was between TWO DIFFERENT WEBSITES, I would not read anything sinister into it without a lot more facts (maybe they made a mistake, for example). And I CERTAINLY would not (as at least one poster did) start casting aspersions on Mr. Bushing's credibility based on an apparent disparity between two versions of his biography on a matter I consider to be of no relevance to his qualifications. I am not defending Mr. Bushing, I have no basis on which to do so, and indeed I have some remaining questions about the DiMaggio bat episode, but this thing about the Master's degree seems to me to be a tempest in a teapot. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Aaron
"But even assuming Mastro changed the description of Mr. Bushing's biography, and I see no evidence of that given that the comparison posted here was between TWO DIFFERENT WEBSITES, I would not read anything sinister into it without a lot more facts (maybe they made a mistake, for example)." |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: JT
Actually, if you do a Google search, you can find that Bushing's profile was in fact changed on this "roster" page. Compare the current page with Google's "cached" page. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: mcavoy
From a similar google search. See: The HSC Top 100. Mr. Bushing is in a tie for #65: |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: MW
Can anyone from Mastronet comment? |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: al davis
"a matter I consider to be of no relevance to his qualifications". it may not be relevant to his ability to authenticate, but it sure is central to his credibility. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
"...he has clearly attempted to mislead the public by obviously implying that his degree lends relevance to his ability to authenticate. as far as i'm concerned, there can be no doubt that this type of behavior is part of his character and extends into all of his dealings. to think otherwise would be naive." |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: davidcycleback
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: MW
David, |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: davidcycleback
Michael, the original post had four periods, but I felt that might come across as garish and edited it down to three. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: al davis
sure, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. we should also assume that he has no conflict of interest. while we're at it, let's forget the trivial mistakes he's recently made authenticating big-ticket items. after all, he seems to be a nice guy and what's more, we'll feel good about ourselves. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: MW
Aldavis, |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Cap
I'm seeing a lot of this lately, especially with Jimmy Spence, PSA/DNA and now Bushing. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
Ironically, the next line of the song Cap's quote is from is "All these people that you mention, yes I know them they're quite lame." |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Vikes, why don't you email him and ask him for yourself? |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
Dan, be serious, why would Vikes believe anything Mr. Bushing himself said, because he might lie. His credibility is "clearly" suspect based on the overwhelming "facts" that already have been unearthed, so asking Bushing himself is obviously a waste of time. PS -- I hope Doug Allen will clear this all up so we can move on to the next (and hopefully more substantial) controversy. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: davidcycleback
My question after reading the "evidence" used in this thread ("I don't know, but it's possible, so let's assume the worst so we can make our conclusion"), is this the same level of facts people used to say the DiMaggio bat was bad? |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: PASJD
At this point, anyhow, in the opinion of this lawyer it amounts to nothing more than sheer speculation on a matter of marginal (at best) importance. Look at the other Mastro bios. The degrees mentioned in them are just deep background facts to humanize the people in my opinion, they aren't being offered to prop up anyone's credentials. What is being offered to prop up credentials is hobby or other relevant experience. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Hal Lewis
I would bet my left one that Mastro and/or Bushing are aware of this thread by now... |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: vikes066
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Cap
I see Vikes' point. |
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A question of credibility (Bushing's Degree)
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Vikes, why don't you email Bushing and ask him for yourself? |
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