Imagine if...

[1burritoplease]

Pat Tillman's wife has asked that her husband not be dragged into this. She also said that Tillman would have supported Kaepernick's protest

(source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-during-anthem)

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

Pat Tillman's wife has asked that her husband not be dragged into this. She also said that Tillman would have supported Kaepernick's protest

(source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-during-anthem)

The point is being missed. It's really not about Pat Tillman. It's about sacrifice. Ok, take Pat Tillman's name out and let's say (fill in the name of any fallen soldier here) gave the ultimate sacrifice. What has Kaepernick ever sacrificed? The NFL contract the he opted out of? Was that his sacrifice? To say he sacrificed everything is an insult to those who truly have.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think David's right. However one views Kaepernick, the ad campaign is very overstated. Had it said, he stood up for what he believed in, fine -- he did.

[1burritoplease]

I forgot, the military has a monopoly on sacrifice...

[barrysloate]

For what it's worth, Nike stock hit its all-time high yesterday. I didn't see what it did today.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

I forgot, the military has a monopoly on sacrifice...

No one said it did. Nice deflection though. The ad says he sacrificed everything. Everything? I'm not asking for everything, I just want to know one thing. What has Kaepernick ever sacrificed?

[nolemmings]

Hmmm.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/...ographer-says/

“Pat would have found Kaepernick an extremely admirable person for what he believed in,” [Tillman biographer] Krakauer told The Washington Post. “I have no doubt if he was in the NFL today, he would be the first to kneel. So there is irony about what is going on.”

[1burritoplease]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No one said it did. Nice deflection though. The ad says he sacrificed everything. Everything? I'm not asking for everything, I just want to know one thing. What has Kaepernick ever sacrificed?

Millions of dollars donated to charitable causes and in lost wages plus a career he's been working towards since Pee Wee football. What have you done to fight racism and police brutality?

[1burritoplease]

By the way, the actual deflection is when people like you twist the conversation away from racism and violence committed by our law enforcement community against young black men and try to turn it into something entirely different.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

Millions of dollars donated to charitable causes and in lost wages plus a career he's been working towards since Pee Wee football. What have you done to fight racism and police brutality?

Colin Kaepernick earned more than $43 million dollars during his career. He has donated just a little over $1 million (not the millions as you stated). That's 2.3% of his salary. The average American donates 3.7% of their annual salary. Big sacrifice there.

Edited to educate the misinformed: Lost wages? He opted out of his contract. That would be like me quitting my job and then complaining about lost wages.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No one said it did. Nice deflection though. The ad says he sacrificed everything. Everything? I'm not asking for everything, I just want to know one thing. What has Kaepernick ever sacrificed?

uh, His Career.

Curt Flood also sacrificed his career

[ALR-bishop]

As someone who grew up and lived in St. Louis for a long time, and went to Series games in 64, 67 and 68, I was very sad when the Cardinals traded Flood to the Phils in 1969 ( even though having Richie Allen on the team was intriguing). His post baseball life had some low points, and he did pass up decent money from the Phils. An example of losing the battle so others could win the war. I have fond memories of him patrolling center field in the 60s.

No comment on Mr Kaepernick.