$117K SGC 8.5 DiMaggio WWG trimmed heavily, previously an SGC 6

[theshowandme]

SGC is aware


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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

sgc is aware


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lolololol

[Peter_Spaeth]

Is "we will be sure to take action if it is deemed necessary" a circular statement/tautology? Greg M., what say you?

[swarmee]

And with no guarantee in place, not sure what action they'd need to take in order to get the current owner to return it to be placed in an AUTH ALTERED slab without getting paid back.

[Fred]

If SGC does realize there is something "wrong" with the card based on all of the evidence provided, what is their next step? What's the difference in price between a 6 and 8.5? My guess it has to be a huge difference in price.

I wonder if TPGs have insurance for something like this. I would have to believe no insurance company would be so blind to the possible fraud that could result in payouts.

Do any of the TPGs provide a limited indemnity against such huge possible payouts? Or do the TPGs offer any type of protection for the hobbyist?

Hey, I see you lost about $100K on that, we'll give you lifetime free submissions.

Anybody want to guess on the response? It would be nice for them to examine all the evidence and do the right thing, but think about the potential backlash for doing the right thing.

Edited to add - oh crap, that's the difference between 8.5 and A... OMG

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Fred

If SGC does realize there is something "wrong" with the card based on all of the evidence provided, what is their next step? What's the difference in price between a 6 and 8.5? My guess it has to be a huge difference in price.

SGC has no guarantee.

Therefore, SGC makes no warranty or representation and shall have no liability whatsoever to Customer for the grade or determination of authenticity assigned by SGC to any item.

https://www.gosgc.com/terms

I'll leave it up to the lawyers of the board as to whether they can actually fully disclaim liability in this fashion.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Tabe

SGC has no guarantee.



https://www.gosgc.com/terms

I'll leave it up to the lawyers of the board as to whether they can actually fully disclaim liability in this fashion.

But there was one in place when they graded it years ago.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is "we will be sure to take action if it is deemed necessary" a circular statement/tautology? Greg M., what say you?

It's more of tautology; as it is designed to say nothing but the conclusion isn't itself a premise. Empty statement constructed in such a way that it works whether the components are true or false - they either will or will not do something based on if they think they should or should not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

It's more of tautology; as it is designed to say nothing but the conclusion isn't itself a premise. Empty statement constructed in such a way that it works whether the components are true or false - they either will or will not do something based on if they think they should or should not.

In other words, utter BS.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In other words, utter BS.

To use the technical term

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

SGC is aware


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And?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And?

It hasn’t been deemed necessary or unnecessary, eventually action will or will not be taken. Hurry up and forget!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

It hasn’t been deemed necessary or unnecessary, eventually action will or will not be taken. Hurry up and forget!

^^this^^ plus didn't someone say it is now in a PSA slab so why would SGC care?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

^^this^^ plus didn't someone say it is now in a PSA slab so why would SGC care?

If I were more cynical I would think this response from SGC was disingenuous from the get go and they knew exactly where this card came from.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I were more cynical I would think this response from SGC was disingenuous from the get go and they knew exactly where this card came from.

Well it is SGCPete and all of his messages come off that way...to me anyway. Either way, SGCPete knows who they slabbed the card for. It is likely someone whose material they see very often.

Not that they were going to do anything about it but now for sure Dave is not buying it back. Zero obligation since Team Nat decided they wanted the card in their slab.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Well it is SGCPete and all of his messages come off that way...to me anyway. Either way, SGCPete knows who they slabbed the card for. It is likely someone whose material they see very often.

Not that they were going to do anything about it but now for sure Dave is not buying it back. Zero obligation since Team Nat decided they wanted the card in their slab.

Agreed. It is a small universe of people who would have hacked up that card.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by bnorth

^^this^^ plus didn't someone say it is now in a PSA slab so why would SGC care?

Exactly. Moving on, nothing to see here folks.