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Old 02-19-2010, 04:01 PM
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How expensive is a hologram? Common sense suggests it would be much harder to fake a hologram than a flip. I assume PSA went away from these only because of the expense.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:11 PM
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Default What should you do when you bust a card out of encapsulation?

Although I like the looks of the SGC holders, I bust out all cards I get that have been graded (with my focus, no matter what the holder, it makes the rubber stampings look even more faded). So I have about 15 "flips" that I've saved as I free the cards. Should the grading companies be made aware of that type of activity, so they don't continue to list a card in there population reports, or do you just forget about it, since you know you won't be resubmitting?
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:28 PM
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You can send them in and they'll update the pop reports.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:33 PM
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But they have trouble updating an incorrect cert for the most well-known card in the world: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/14442551.html That cert belongs to a Heinie Wagner card that sold on eBay in late July 2009.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:53 PM
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How expensive is a hologram? Common sense suggests it would be much harder to fake a hologram than a flip. I assume PSA went away from these only because of the expense.
Peter, The hologram they used was on the slab during that time, the blue flip back was blank. PSA has been well aware of the security issues and weaknesses, for a few years now Seems they have made a conscious effort to simply avoid the problem. A simple hologram (perhaps numbered to match the cert) on the flip itself or using a water mark type paper would certainly help.

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Default PSA Label History Guide

I have spent enough time staring at PSA labels... That got me thinking about what changes have been made over time and how have they looked from the beginning in 1991 to today. There were a couple good forum threads on this topic already, so I used those as referenced sources and made up the difference myself.

The purpose of this guide is to show the historic changes of the labels, identify what an authentic label looks like and to help identify the approximate date of when a card was graded.

My compiled guide is linked below. If you have any comments, deletions, additions, etc. please let me know.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbhcm18nj2...Label.pdf?dl=0

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Great job to all who built this thread, and thanks Ngs428 for the manual - that is really good!

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Default PSA evolution

STYLE 8

The newest PSA flips now have a hologram on front, starting within the past few years. I think the backs look the same as the previous style. This version was used from around 4/17/2015 to about 6/13/2017.
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HOF "Earliest" Collection (Ideal - Indiv): 191/323 (59.1%)
1911 T332 Helmar Stamps.................: 178/180 (98.9%)
1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 108/119 (90.8%)
1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate............: 103/180 (57.2%)

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STYLE 8

4/17/15 - https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...edded-hologram

STYLE 9

6/14/17 - https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...ook-technology

Scans of style 9 front and back, from the link. Notice the new PSA logo as well as the PSA in the background of the paper flip.
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1911 T332 Helmar Stamps.................: 178/180 (98.9%)
1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 108/119 (90.8%)
1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate............: 103/180 (57.2%)

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I think the graphics, and amount of, are a bit heavy handed on the latest version. I prefer style #8, but I know they’re trying to have as many security features as possible...I just wish they could’ve achieved that in a (visually) quieter way. (Sorry, I have a discerning eye, as a designer).
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