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Old 03-04-2022, 12:58 PM
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I watched a Fox report last week and they clearly said, "Who the hell knows what is really going on"

Before anyone thinks I am cheering Putin on or advocating for war, death and destruction, think again, but I can't help to be brought back to the WMD stories that all of MSM spewed to us before the Gulf war. How'd that story play out?

I believe our media is corrupt and biased with a penchant for protecting U.S. interests by creating and pushing false narratives in an effort to make them look all divine and the like so I really have a hard time believing much of anything that we are being told about Putin, Russia, Zelenskyy and the Ukraine.
Imo, there is definitely more to this story than what we are being told.
If you can't figure out who started this war, and therefore who the bad guys are, I actually feel sorry for you. Yes, it is always good to be skeptical to a degree, but come on. Isn't this specific invasion clear enough to see it for what it is?

Sure, we don't know all the details. But we do see bombs and artillery shelling Ukranian cities, and miles upon miles of tanks invading across a sovereign border. Or are you thinking all the many competing news services in the free word are colluding to fool you?
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Old 03-04-2022, 02:51 PM
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If you can't figure out who started this war, and therefore who the bad guys are, I actually feel sorry for you. Yes, it is always good to be skeptical to a degree, but come on. Isn't this specific invasion clear enough to see it for what it is?
Mark, the MSM has pushed propaganda to fit their narrative for decades. Why would this situation be any different? Is Putin a good guy? NO....but wouldn't you be interested learning if there was a different story not being told? I sure would.

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Or are you thinking all the many competing news services in the free word are colluding to fool you?
For as often as they're been proven wrong, YES!
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:00 PM
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Mark, the MSM has pushed propaganda to fit their narrative for decades. Why would this situation be any different? Is Putin a good guy? NO....but wouldn't you be interested learning if there was a different story not being told? I sure would.



For as often as they're been proven wrong, YES!
Yeah, I'm sure Hitler had an excuse to invade sovereign nations one after the other, too. Gosh, maybe he really was the victim after all.
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure Hitler had an excuse to invade sovereign nations one after the other, too. Gosh, maybe he really was the victim after all.
I was only suggesting there might be more at play we're not being told, not that Putin is an innocent Saint.
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The sad truth is that totally innocent men, women, and children are being hurt and dying because of this action, regardless of who initially started it and their reasons for doing so.
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And, just like I thought. Lots of North American interest in regards to Putin and the Ukraine.
What he says about Chrystia Freeland is 100% true. She was seen with this group holding this flag.
(Watch the Jimmy Dore vid below. You'll learn something)
https://youtu.be/KfaAyiP8Wuc
https://tnc.news/2022/03/03/national...stia-freeland/
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:11 PM
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And, just like I thought. Lots of North American interest in regards to Putin and the Ukraine.
What he says about Chrystia Freeland is 100% true. She was seen with this group holding this flag.
(Watch the Jimmy Dore vid below. You'll learn something)
https://youtu.be/KfaAyiP8Wuc
https://tnc.news/2022/03/03/national...stia-freeland/
Why do you continue to trust Jimmy Dore?
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:28 PM
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Why do you continue to trust Jimmy Dore?
You didn't watch the video, did you? No need to answer. I know from the time you posted you practically had zero chance to.

Almost everything he broadcasts uses media sources, govt documents or first hand testimony as the focus of each show. Kinda like real journalists should do. Pretty pathetic that a comedian is putting the boots to MSM networks.
Why doesn't CNN or MSNBC invite him to their shows? Fox does. What are the others afraid of?
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Old 03-04-2022, 04:37 PM
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You didn't watch the video, did you? No need to answer. I know from the time you posted you practically had zero chance to.

Almost everything he broadcasts uses media sources, govt documents or first hand testimony as the focus of each show. Kinda like real journalists should do. Pretty pathetic that a comedian is putting the boots to MSM networks.
Why doesn't CNN or MSNBC invite him to their shows? Fox does. What are the others afraid of?
On the last long thread, you posted a Fox News clip from Facebook. We can agree to disagree, but Facebook? Fox news?? Not exactly where one goes to for "truth."
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