1934 GOLD Medal Food

[cliftons8]

A couple of months ago I bought a "set" of these with the original envelope from a local card shop. The story is that they were brought in by an elderly man who got them in the mail as a kid. My question is: How many are actually in the set? The front of the envelope has the #12 on it, but 21 are lsited on VCP and an older Beckett guide that I looked at. The Standard guide has 12 cards listed. Also, how much value do you think the envelope adds?

Thanks for any input,

Mike

[fkw]

I cant find my issue #6 of Old Cardboard, but I think it has the answers. Tim Newcomb wrote a good article on the R313A Gold Medal Foods cards.

I believe there are 2 types, one is Tigers and Cardinals (12), and the other series has other players from other teams. The 2nd type are far rarer and are not listed at all in the 2009 SCD.

Maybe some of the checklists combine the 2 sets?

[Boccabella]

I have this set. Unfortunately when my late father bought it from a childhood friend about 30-35 years ago, I stuck them in a traditional photo album and pretty much ruined the backs. Dumb teenager. I remember they were stunningly near mint when we got them but back in the day plastic sheets for standard cards were a new concept, let alone anything for oversized stuff.

I have all Tigers/Cards and yes, there are 12. I would guess the envelope maybe adds another $100 to the value? I have the R309-1 Goudey Premium set with the original envelope (bought from the same source).

Never heard of another set being issued so that would be an interesting read.

[HRBAKER]

I think Leon has the Chuck Klein from the "other" set on his website.

[cliftons8]

Frank: Thanks for the info. I found the Old Carboard issue. It is the 3-D issue. It was nice to look at it again.
Thanks Rich and Jeff

Mike

[Peter_Spaeth]

http://ebay.oldjudge.com/archive/200811/sets/56/

Lot 56. R313A Gold Medal “Extended Set” of 6. The Gold Medal set is generally considered to be an extended World Series set of R313 Fine Pens featuring 6 members of the St. Louis Cardinals and the Detroit Tigers, opponents in the 1934 World Series. For reasons that remain a mystery, 6 additional cards were produced of 6 additional players which are remarkably rare with only a few copies known of each. Possibly the first time all six have ever been offered. The six players are Al Simmons (excellent front with some album page remains of the rear), Chuck Klein (hairline 1” crease and with some album page remains of the rear), William Rogell (excellent), George Earnshaw (near excellent),Odell Hale (excellent), and Joe Vosmik (some creasing in two corners on front, and used as a postcard on the rear. Mailed in 1935 from Minneapolis.

[fkw]

I just looked at the 2006 Beckett big book and it has a list of 22 cards for Gold Medal Foods cards.

Starting a Checklist of the second type of R313A cards

Beside the 12 more common W.S. cards (6 Tigers/6 Cardinals)
there are...


(from the 2006 Beckett guide)
1.Earl Averill
2.George Blaeholder
3.Irving Burns
4.Bruce Campbell
5.Tex Carleton
6.Odell Hale
7.Mel Harder
8.Jack Knott
9.Joe Vosmik
10.Bill Walker

(add these from Lipsets auction description)
11.Chuck Klein
12.Al Simmons
13.?William Rogell? (is this the common W.S. one, or a different pose?)
14.George Earnshaw


Any more??

[timn1]

All the cards mentioned so far in this thread are checklisted in my Old Cardboard article, as well as four players from the Des Moines Demons and a Red Faber which I have never seen but have been told exists by an ultra-reliable source. The 1935 envelope and "extended set" is news to me, however. I had assumed that all the non-Tigers and Cardinals players were from 1933. I'll try to look into the Lipset contention.

Incidentally, I don't mean to sound cranky, but if you have the Old Cardboard issues in question (#6-7) you might want to look back at them before posting anything more in the thread, since my articles in those issues represent the complete knowledge on these sets as of 2007. I'm not sure anything definitively new has been added since then--

Tim

[aelefson]

Hi-
I hope I am not derailing this thread, but there has not been one on this set in a while. I traded for the Dean "postcard" example scanned below. I am sure this was done at home, as the only information on the back is a stamped address and stamp. If it helps this postcard shows these were most likely available in the Minneapolis area in 1934.
Alan Elefson
aelefson@hotmail.com

[fkw]

Last post by me...

Only reason I started a checklist on the R313A type2 is so MAYBE this info can be added to the SCD Standard Catalog in the future.

Beckett tried, but they combined both sets....

I dont have #6 issue of Old Cardboard with me, so I didnt have that info from 2006.

Sorry to bump a post a few times over the popular Barkman and REA posts, but this stuff (along with correcting the screwed up checklist of R314 type4) interests me far more than that stuff.


aloha

[cliftons8]

Frank,
I appreciate the effort. I am new to this set and was wanting to know if my set was complete or if there is more. You certainly helped. I still have questions, that I guess won't be asked or answered.


Mike

[Stuke1976]

Interesting that the cards are being labeled Gold Medal Foods. On the Wheaties box it says the parent company's name is Gold Medal Flour. On one box it says, for recipes, write to Betty Crocker, Gold Medal Flour, Minneapolis, MN. Later became General Mills or General Foods. Either name works, not sure why the change is needed.

[FrankWakefield]

I had not noticed the used of Gold Medal Foods... At this moment I've only looked in the 5th edition of the Standard Catalog, and is has Foods. I always thought it was Gold Medal Flour.

The 5th edition Standard Catalog calls them 1934 Gold Medal Foods, (R313A), and lists 12 cards.

So I'm wondering where I got thinking it was "Flour" in my head...

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I had not noticed the used of Gold Medal Foods... At this moment I've only looked in the 5th edition of the Standard Catalog, and is has Foods. I always thought it was Gold Medal Flour.

The 5th edition Standard Catalog calls them 1934 Gold Medal Foods, (R313A), and lists 12 cards.

So I'm wondering where I got thinking it was "Flour" in my head...

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[timn1]

on the "Pen" sets (R313, R314, Gold Medal, etc.) gives some info about the nomenclature - Gold Medal Flour was one product in the Gold Medal Foods line, which was produced by General Mills. The cards were advertised primarily as Gold Medal Foods premiums (rather than specific to the flour).

You guys might have an interest in checking out my articles. I haven't talked to Lyman for a while, but according to the site, back issues are still available for individual purchase, or (if you never subscribed) you can order the whole run. They pack a tremendous wealth of information on vintage cards. These articles are in issues 6 and 7.

https://oldcardboard.com/subscriptions.asp

[Vintagedeputy]

13 year old post returns from the dead!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I had not noticed the used of Gold Medal Foods... At this moment I've only looked in the 5th edition of the Standard Catalog, and is has Foods. I always thought it was Gold Medal Flour.

The 5th edition Standard Catalog calls them 1934 Gold Medal Foods, (R313A), and lists 12 cards.

So I'm wondering where I got thinking it was "Flour" in my head...

SGC labeled mine Flour.

[nolemmings]

PSA did the same for mine: