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Old 04-15-2024, 06:45 PM
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I was looking at cards on the PSA registry and a huge amount from this year are very clean with no stains. Were these cards "cleaned" or were there some that did not get stained?


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Not that the 14's without stains are suspect, but I've always preferred the 14's with stains, gives them character.

I think it would be hard to clean these cards, they are thin and fragile, but I'm no expert at cleaning.
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Old 04-15-2024, 07:36 PM
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That is an absolute stunner.
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Not that the 14's without stains are suspect, but I've always preferred the 14's with stains, gives them character.

I think it would be hard to clean these cards, they are thin and fragile, but I'm no expert at cleaning.
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Cracker Jack cards are indeed thin and fragile. Perhaps this 1914 Tesreau had some heavier staining in a couple of places, and cleaning was attempted.

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Cracker Jack cards are indeed thin and fragile. Perhaps this 1914 Tesreau had some heavier staining in a couple of places, and cleaning was attempted.

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I was looking at cards on the PSA registry and a huge amount from this year are very clean with no stains. Were these cards "cleaned" or were there some that did not get stained?


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i think they look great both with and without stains
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If I collected 1914 CJs I wouldn't touch them without stains. They show the history so much more.
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I have a 1914 without stains (and some borders), although this behatted man later had his reputation stained and further shredded due to his tightwad-iness.

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Unstained CJs remind me of Michael Jackson's claim of near full-body vitiligo.
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Stains are part of the history, which I accept and like. Maybe look at the link from yesterday on Kurt’s Card Care. I turned off the Kurt’s Card Care after a bit as not to my liking. My radar is up on perfect looking Vintage cards. I do know near perfect vintage is possible from a find in the 1980’s from someone’s safe with incredible CJ’s that a dealer in the panhandle of WV obtained. Just not what I would consider what we mostly see. Keeping an open mind and a keen eye is key.
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I started a thread about this a while back. I like my 14 CJs stained. It’s part of what makes them so special. Amazing set, best stained.

Shameless plug- my entire 1914 CJ set (stains and all) is being broken up and sold in the current memory lane auction.
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I started a thread about this a while back. I like my 14 CJs stained. It’s part of what makes them so special. Amazing set, best stained.



Shameless plug- my entire 1914 CJ set (stains and all) is being broken up and sold in the current memory lane auction.
I will take a look. Why are you letting them go?

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Just trimming my collection down. As much as I love them, for me cards are investments, and I felt it was time to sell some stuff and reallocate elsewhere. The 1914 CJ set is so cool that I bet I put together another one down the line.

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Just trimming my collection down. As much as I love them, for me cards are investments, and I felt it was time to sell some stuff and reallocate elsewhere. The 1914 CJ set is so cool that I bet I put together another one down the line.
A fantastic opportunity to pick up many significant cards that are increasingly unavailable. I would only ask, don't bid on the cards I want.
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If I collected 1914 CJs I wouldn't touch them without stains. They show the history so much more.
+1. When I pick up my types for '14s and '15s they will have some, not too distracting, staining. I don't want 1914s that don't have staining. They have cleaned away their heritage. To each their own, but I would leave the stains alone....

This is from my last collection. As for visual look, this is what I like to see.

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A Cracker Jack card without stains is almost blasphemy. It may sound crazy, but since Im not in it for the money, if I had a choice between a near mint CJ with zero stains and a mid to low grade with stains, Id choose the latter any day of the week. Its a huge part of what makes them so special.
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For all of you who disdain the lack of stains, this Cracker Jack is for you.



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I said stains. Holes are a whole other collector base.
Lots of '14s in auction right now but they usually go for a bid more than I want to pay LOL...most of them aren't super rare, just expensive (for guys on budgets)
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I said stains. Holes are a whole other collector base.
Lots of '14s in auction right now but they usually go for a bid more than I want to pay LOL...most of them aren't super rare, just expensive (for guys on budgets)
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I am such a hole collector, even if the cards are not Cracker Jacks.

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I love Cracker Jacks--I have a bunch of '15s, but only two '14s, unfortunately.
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I love Cracker Jacks--I have a bunch of '15s, but only two '14s, unfortunately.
It is a fine unfortunate thing to only own 1914 Cracker Jacks of Wagner and Speaker.


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If one of your 14 CJ is that Christy Mathewson, hats off, that is an awesome card. Definitely intrigued by some of the other ones available.
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