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Old 04-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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I thought there were more wagners than planks? Wouldn't that put Plank and possibly Magie above Wagner in actuall card scarcity??
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:41 AM
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I thought there were more wagners than planks? Wouldn't that put Plank and possibly Magie above Wagner in actuall card scarcity??
humm i dont think so,

i think there were more magie than plank and wagner... but according to me arround same number of Plank and Wagner.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:41 AM
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I think there may well be fewer Planks than Wagners based on the number you see out there and the number in auctions...i remember seeing three Wagners at the last Baltimore National, but I don't remember seeing a single Plank. Then again the Wagners just may appear more plentiful because it is such a sexy card and the may churn more.

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Old 04-10-2012, 11:51 AM
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I have pics of 4 wagners at the Balt national and that's where I seen the 2 planks. The one missing ink and then a normal. I have pics somewhere. May search and post them later. I have always wanted a plank. Just a bad ass card IMO
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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Would like to see this post but pertaining rarity in high grades, say higher than a psa 6/ sgc 80.....
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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I have pics of 4 wagners at the Balt national and that's where I seen the 2 planks. The one missing ink and then a normal. I have pics somewhere. May search and post them later. I have always wanted a plank. Just a bad ass card IMO
hey please post pic if you can of these cards you had see in the balt national.

Hope 1 day to travel to the national in baltimore and see a Wagner in person.... i never saw this card in real....
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:35 PM
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Again, look at the numbers for the supposedly 'easier' versions of the variations. Both the PSA pop reports and the numbers available on ebay will surprise you. I've posted the PSA pop numbers for some of them before and there wasn't any ensuing discussion, so I'll refrain, but if you really believe that what's available on ebay really reflects actual population, you'll be surprised by those numbers as well.

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Elberfeld portrait is currently 3-1 in favor of Washington. Lundgren is 10-6, Kansas City leads Chicago. Dahlen - Boston 5-4 over Brooklyn. Kleinow Boston leads New York 8-5.
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There are definitely fewer Wagners than Planks. I don't think there is any question. I think ballpark rough estimates would put Wagner at 60 give or take a few, and Plank at roughly 100. Magie is probably in the 150-200 range.

One cannot make accurate estimates based on the number of examples at one particular show. It makes much more sense to see how many have been publicly offered over a ten year period or longer. After all, didn't REA have four Planks in one auction last year (or the year before?).
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:10 PM
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I think the Plank and Wagner numbers are closer than you think. Remember, when a Wagner lands into an advanced collection, it stays usually. The Planks are traded more often due to value. I figure Wagner 60 - 70 examples and Plank 80 - 90 examples. You can't really judge by how many have come to market. Several Wagners were acquired years ago in the 1970s by advanced collectors and are still in those collections.

How can O'Hara and Demmit be tougher than the Magie error as the list shows??
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