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Old 02-25-2023, 07:51 AM
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The t206resource back scarcity list was created back in 2012 based on the scarcity of acquiring each back independent of the subjects. If you break it down to print groups or subjects the list could change quite a bit. Sweet Caporal 350 factory 25 and 30 are number 37 and 38 on the list but there are several subject that the SC350/25 are their toughest back and there's one subject that the SC350/30 is his toughest back. In my opinion there are a couple on the list that could be changed but in general it's not to far off.
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This back printing anamoly tells us that this Collins card was horizontally double-printed on a T205 sheet.






And, here are some gold-bordered Military guys with some tough backs (issued Circa spring 1911).




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Old 02-25-2023, 07:26 PM
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And, here are some gold-bordered Military guys with some tough backs (issued Circa spring 1911).

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I feel obliged to finish the T80 backs compilation:
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Old 02-28-2023, 07:01 PM
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American Lithographic (ALC) introduced 4 new Tobacco brands during their printing of the 350-only Series (circa Spring/Summer 1910).
I was fascinated to find out that ALC printed the AB - BL - CY - DRUM backs on 190 subjects in this 350 Series. And, I embarked on an
ambitious challenge to at least collect this 4-card sub-set of my favorite T206 players pictured in this Series. So I started with Delahanty.

I completed my first A - B - C - D sub-set in 2007 at the Reading (PA) Philly Show. I acquired Frank Delahanty's DRUM card from Toby.



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NOTE.....All 190 subjects with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 and CYCLE 350 backs have been confirmed. Currently, 177 - BROAD LEAF
350 cards have been confirmed. From the 350-only Series, 123 DRUM cards have been confirmed. Recent years, more BROAD LEAF
350 cards and DRUM cards have surfaced, and they will continue to be discovered in the future.


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Old 02-28-2023, 08:12 PM
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Love the Delahantys Ted...I only have one A-B-C-D foursome...
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:04 PM
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Nice Sonny. Here is my only ABCD, with a huge assist to Sonny for the B
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:56 PM
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Great cards guys!

Ryan, I think an assist to me for the Speaker "A"

Here's a random "D"...
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Old 03-01-2023, 08:10 AM
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I sold my T205 set (including Hoblitzell No-Stats) 22 years ago. Then, I started putting together T205 runs of NY Yankees players. That is when I realized
that American Litho also printed the A - B - C - D pattern on certain T205 subjects. Exactly 32 subjects can be found with this pattern. List will be posted.

My experience doing these T205 runs has provided me an appreciation for certain printing patterns in the T205 set. Two important examples are......

1.... T205 DRUM cards and HINDU cards are mutually-exclusive in the print runs.

2.... The A - B - C - D cards and AMERICAN BEAUTY (Green) cards are mutually-exclusive.

Displayed here is my 1st complete T205 run.....Harry Wolter (11 cards). The DRUM was real tough (but it assured me that No HINDU of Wolter exists).


V----------------------------------- AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection (A - B - C - D) -----------------------------------V
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Factory #649 .................................................. Factory #30



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Old 03-01-2023, 09:44 AM
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How about a C-H-A-S-E......no?

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My take is that off back has become popular with people doing binder sets and aiming to have them be anything but Piedmont or Sweet Cap. Not too many people want to have the true rare backs in a binder, so I think the off back generally has cards split into three groups without any real groups of the backs beyond "rare": 1) Piedmont/Sweet Cap, 2) Off backs = Tougher than Piedmont/Sweet Cap up to Hindu, 3) Rare backs = Hindu and tougher.

And here are some of mine that would fall into that rare category.

I may be an exception to the rare backs in binders. Here's one of my favorite pages out of my set...if only I could find a Konetchy Red Hindu or BL460 to round the backs out.
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Jason, that is Awesome, job well done

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Love seeing those raw rarebacks, nicely done Jason!
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Well played, Chris!
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Chris, nice!

Jason, killer raw rare backs.
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Chris

Ole buddy....I think I asked you this once before several years ago, but I don't remember your answer......

" Have you ever seen (or heard of) a Blue Chase with a DRUM back ? "


I have been searching for one for 40 years. Never seen one, never heard of one.






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Old 03-01-2023, 07:31 PM
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just traded for this one a few days ago and its on its way to me but its my first American Beauty back ive ever had
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Well played, Chris!
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Chris is good like that.
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Great cards everyone.

Here's a random "H"...
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