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Old 02-15-2017, 10:20 PM
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Out of curiosity, what do you think that the cards should have been graded?
I am proposing a paradigm shift. I am not saying they were improperly graded according to the grading standards. I am saying grading standards are flawed and should be revamped. Somewhere along the line, grading companies need to consider overall appearance and presentation if they are going to be the measuring stick of our hobby.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:22 PM
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This stuff kills me. I guess this is over graded then.

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God no. It is gorgeous.
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There's a speck of paper loss on the back or I think it's a 7. Again though, with the tiny paper loss why a 2 and not a 1.5?
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Is not nor should it be the same as eye appeal. People need to grasp this concept. And indeed buy the card not the holder. This leads to prices not being based solely on the number on the holder which to me is a good thing. The fact is the hobby has decided not all flaws are created equal and these standards have been established over a long period of time.

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Keith, I know that, but what I am pointing out is that perhaps they should reconsider that rote practice.
Oh yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. To me the T3 is no less than a VGEX, similar to a mild corner ding. Can't tell you how many super nice T206 I have owned for cheap because of a spot (some I could not see without a glass). Wonder how PSA would grade this guy.

This is the one grading trait I personally find inconsistent with other grading practices at SGC. Don't see this changing anytime at all. This is one reason why I have moved away from graded cards.
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All very true. We see this over and over and it is the way it is. It is probably the correct way if really debated. Unless you are playing registry tic tac toe then the grade should be secondary to the card.

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Whether we all agree on this board that a "paradigm shift" is "necessary" in the tpg world...not saying we do...but even if we did. It AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!

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Out of curiosity, what do you think that the cards should have been graded?
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I am not saying they were improperly graded according to the grading standards.
Umm, that's exactly what the sarcastic title of your thread infers. What do you want SGC to do?

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Somewhere along the line, grading companies need to consider overall appearance and presentation if they are going to be the measuring stick of our hobby.
No, they don't. It is not up to the grading company to determine the eye appeal of a card. It's their job to grade the card. The buyer can determine the eye appeal of a card.

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Is not nor should it be the same as eye appeal. People need to grasp this concept. And indeed buy the card not the holder. This leads to prices not being based solely on the number on the holder which to me is a good thing. The fact is the hobby has decided not all flaws are created equal and these standards have been established over a long period of time.
+1 Glyn

Edited to add the following question: Do you think PSA or any other reputable grading company would have graded the 2 T3 Cobbs any differently?

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I say keep the grades low all day. I picked this card up for a ridiculous discount all because some people can't live without the half percent of the card that's missing:





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