Searching for a "Pirate" Cobb....show us these extremely rare "T215" cards ?

[cfc1909]

are ther any other sets that have a 97 card checklist?

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by cfc1909

are ther any other sets that have a 97 card checklist?

Interesting thought Jim.

97 is a prime number (can't be divided by anything and still get a whole number). So, (unless cards were printed one at a time, which is quite unlikely) if the cards were printed on sheets, a sheet would have to have all the same front; OR there would have to be double prints; OR there would have to be some non-baseball fronts on the baseball sheets.

[teetwoohsix]

Is the reason for thinking there is a Cobb with a Pirate back based on the crossing of the Type 1's ? Just wondering,because if that were the case, what about :

1.) Crandall,New York Nat'l -Type 1,but no Pirate

2.)Ball,Cleveland -Type 1,but no Pirate

3.)Conroy,Washington -Type 1,but no Pirate

4.)Hartsel,Toledo - Type 1,but no Pirate

5.)Latham, N.Y. Nat'l -Type 1,but no Pirate

Anyhow, there are more-just using these as an example.And there seem to be more Pirate backed cards that don't have a Type 1 example,than the other way around.

So,is the theory that there is a Cobb with a Pirate back somewhere out there because there is a Cobb Type 1 ?

Sincerely,Clayton

[birdman42]

Originally Posted by White Borders

97 is a prime number (can't be divided by anything and still get a whole number). So, (unless cards were printed one at a time, which is quite unlikely) if the cards were printed on sheets, a sheet would have to have all the same front; OR there would have to be double prints; OR there would have to be some non-baseball fronts on the baseball sheets.

Craig, those were my thoughts after reading the Legendary description. They came up with their 96/97 assessment by adding Danny Murphy to the 96 they offered. One other possibility is, of course, that there are three players yet to be discovered--including, perhaps, Cobb. After all, this find added five to the checklist.

Bill

[tedzan]

Yes, there are 96 different subjects....and, one variation....Bobby Byrne (St. Louis) and 2nd card of Byrne
identifying him with Pittsburg (traded August 1909).

In my opinion....the change in teams for Byrne narrows down this set to a 1910 issue ?

If it was a 1912 issue, as catalogued, there would not have been any reason to issue two cards of Byrne.


Your thoughts, gentleman ? ?


TED Z

[tedzan]

Also, the Pirate set has both versions of Harry McIntyre....Brooklyn....and Brooklyn & Chicago cards. He was traded
on April 13, 1910, which further suggests that the Pirate cards were printed and issued sometime in 1910.

Furthermore, throughout the set, there are other T206 fronts from the 350-only series and from the 350/460 series,
implying that there might have been two printings. And therefore, two issues of these Pirate cards.


TED Z

[teetwoohsix]

I guess my question wasn't a valid one ?

Clayton

[cfc1909]

Ted

that makes sense-96 subjects and a variation of one of the subjects makes a 97 card checklist.

Clayton-the reason for thinking there is a Cobb- is top tier HOFer and there is a t215 Red Cross so why not a t215 Pirate.

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Also, the Pirate set has both versions of Harry McIntyre....Brooklyn....and Brooklyn & Chicago cards. He was traded
on April 13, 1910, which further suggests that the Pirate cards were printed and issued sometime in 1910.

TED Z

Ted's comment reminded me of a T215-1 Red Cross McIntyre I recently picked up. Note that the image is the same as the T206 McIntyre Brooklyn & Chicago, but the caption is McIntyre, Chicago Nat'l.

I'd be interested to know:

a) If there is also a T215-1 Red Cross with the Brooklyn & Chicago caption (which would indicate a caption change during the print run OR two separate print runs).

b) If the Pirate back version has Brooklyn & Chicago in the caption, or just Chicago.

[teetwoohsix]

Well Craig,I'm glad you brought this up.I don't have the answer,but looking at the checklist I'm using (as stated above in my last post),it says this:

McIntyre, Chicago Amer.,,,,Pirate back T215

McIntyre, Bkln. and Chicago Nat'l ,,,,Pirate back T215

McIntyre,Chicago Nat'l ,,,,,Type 1 T215

Is there a T215 McIntyre with just a Brooklyn only designation?

Sincerely,Clayton