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Old 04-30-2023, 05:33 PM
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Anybody make any deals with - Frank Moore ?
He sent me an email offering to sell me something I am looking for - but I cannot verify him.

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Old 04-30-2023, 05:34 PM
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Anybody make any deals with - Frank Moore ?
He sent me an email offering to sell me something I am looking for - but I cannot verify him.

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Is he a member here? Pm Leon.
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:38 PM
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He claims he is not a member here. But he saw my wanted ad.
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:39 PM
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Anybody make any deals with - Frank Moore ?
He sent me an email offering to sell me something I am looking for - but I cannot verify him.

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ALways ask for a Net54baseball ID and check it. That will weed out a good percentage of the scammers. And please, as mentioned, PM me to help verify members.

and a card not associated with anything...
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The look on Goslins face says it all, "why deal with anybody whose not a member of Net54?".
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Whatever you do, if you do deal with him, make sure you use paypal g&s with a credit card. Protect yourself.

Also a picture of the card on today's paper with the date showing might not hurt.
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Also a picture of the card on today's paper with the date showing might not hurt.
The amount of offers I've received from days/weeks old accounts that give me a photo from one of the first few Google image results is pretty much 100%.
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Sent an email. Common denominator to every scammer last few months on here. If Leon or a long time member can’t verify him , forget it. Remember people have been impersonating members also. I rarely deal outside net54 message systems especially a first time deal.


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He claims he is not a member here. But he saw my wanted ad.
I think you need an ID to see the BST?
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The amount of offers I've received from days/weeks old accounts that give me a photo from one of the first few Google image results is pretty much 100%.
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I think you need an ID to see the BST?
+1. Only members with an id can see the BST areas. Sometimes, they are already banned. That means they contacted you outside of the system after they were caught.
IF you see a person has 50+ posts and/or they have been on here for years, they aren't a scammer. They, or anyone, can always do a bad deal but they aren't a new scammer/troll.

And a card from the BST, it's a great place to trade! Keep being careful!!
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Thanks for the responses. I walked away from the deal - too many red flags.

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Rich since you placed the "wanted" ad
anyone responding should send you the card(s) prior to your payment.
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Rich since you placed the "wanted" ad
anyone responding should send you the card(s) prior to your payment.
Unless I misunderstood something, that is not standard practice.
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Unless I misunderstood something, that is not standard practice.
Agreed 100%. Unless I know you well and have done prior deals with you, there is zero chance in hell I will send a card before i receive payment (and the payment clears), even if the sale is the result of my answering a WTB post
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Ryan that's how I've always done it.
If a seller posts an ad here or in a trade paper selling cards, I always pay 1st.
If I'm the seller or I put a want ad for what I need, they send it 1st.
Guess I'm in the minority
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I'm not sure why putting a wanted ad would change the usual practice of the seller waiting to be paid. That said, like others, if I know someone I won't wait for payment before shipping.
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Wow Jay, that’s awesome. I have never heard if that or even thought to ask. As with basically everything in life (at least goods), I always thought payment first.

Well, for everyone on this board, if I sell you a card, I will expect to be paid before I send it!
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That is definitely the general rule, but if I have known someone well for years, I ship without getting payment yet.

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Wow Jay, that’s awesome. I have never heard if that or even thought to ask. As with basically everything in life (at least goods), I always thought payment first.

Well, for everyone on this board, if I sell you a card, I will expect to be paid before I send it!
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I think that was more prevalent decades ago - at least I know it was with me. Oftentimes people would send cards to a buyer for inspection and approval before payment was expected. At least that was my experience in the 1980s.

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Evidently I have been doing this in the wrong way for years. I have been sending cards to unsuspecting recipients, and I then demand payment upon delivery.

In light in this development, from now on I think I will flip the script. I will send a randomly generated amount money to a member of my choosing and require them to send me cards of an equivalent, or ideally, greater value, to fulfill their obligation.

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Evidently I have been doing this in the wrong way for years. I have been sending cards to unsuspecting recipients, and I then demand payment upon delivery.

In light in this development, from now on I think I will flip the script. I will send a randomly generated amount money to a member of my choosing and require them to send me cards of an equivalent, or ideally, greater value, to fulfill their obligation.

Brian
This gave me a chuckle and conjured up memories of this gentleman.....
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