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Posted By: bruce dorskind



There have been many legandary collectors in this hobby...
some of the great collectors first began collecting in the 1920's

If you could spend an hour with one collector (living or deceased)
who would it be?

My choice would Jefferson Burdick whose collection now
resides in the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Print Room.

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Posted By: steve f

Though I'm a little scared of Jay... Any of the Behrens Bros.

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Posted By: peter ullman

i'd like to have met and spent time with barry halper as he was a huge yankees fan...as am I and would have great stories to share. While JB was a master and a pioneer...he catalogued all cards...not just baseball...and I'm not terrible interested in non-baseball stuff.

It's unfortunate "most" of his collection still resides in the met as they don't seem to value/respect/display it as it should be...and how they've allowed it to be pilfered through over the years.

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

steve f: there is really only one Behrens. Multiple personalities tho.

I prefer living collectors. And anyone on this board could interest me for hours.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

E.C. Wharton-Tigar

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Posted By: Rob NYC

What do you mean by 'pilfered'? You mean the displayed collection at the Met is incomplete?

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Posted By: Josh Adams

I'd like to meet you Bruce. I enjoyed your video that you posted on here about a year ago, and would love to see some of the higher end cards you have.
Please, share with us!

I'd also like to meet Halper, even if he is a Yankees fan. He had some great stuff, and I'm sure he has fantastic stories.

Josh

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2005 World Series Champions!

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Posted By: peter ullman

the met...from my experience used to allow people to view the collection in private with some kind of permission...you had to have a "reason" to see the collection...research, writing an article, etc. there are a small # of cards that are actually on display at a given time. I've heard...and I don't doubt...that cards have been stolen over the years as it was probably relatively easy to do so. from my understanding, it is no longer as easy to view the collection if at all possible?

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Posted By: John S

Duke Hott

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Briefly, the Met will not allow anyone to see the baseball cards but will allow legitimate researchers access to the remainder of the collection. You have to make an appointment with the print department, go through lengthy security, know in advance exactly what volumes of the collection (Burdick pasted down everything into scrap books with the larger stuff in boxes) you want, and abide by so pretty strict rules w/r/t handling the materials. Also, no cameras, recording devices or pens. You have to make notes as to what you see with little golf pencils they give you.

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Posted By: Sean Coe

Wirt Gammon. He sold me my first t206's as well as offering helpful advice.

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bamm

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Posted By: Brian

Mark Macrae or Scott Cowan, both have helped me with my collection.

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Posted By: Andrew Parks

Tom Candiotti

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Old 05-09-2006, 11:18 AM
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Posted By: Steve M.

that was back in the 80's and he was a little crotchety so I didn't really have a chance to converse. Trust he's mellowed out by now and would honor me with a chat. Who you say? Why Lew, that's who.

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Posted By: Glenn

Is Charlie Sheen still collecting? That man can party.

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Posted By: jay wolt

Outside of some of the names mentioned like Barker & Halper.
I would like to have met Frank Nagy. From what I've read &
heard he was a generous passionate knowledgable collector...jay

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Posted By: Rob Fouch

Some shameless butt-kissing:
I'd like to meet Leon. Amazingly patient and dedicated guy considering all the work that must go into running this board. And not a bad collection to boot.

Meeting Hal would be cool. Along with several other regular posters. But more importantly, I'd like to meet their collections.

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Posted By: J Levine

I honestly would have liked to meet Burdick or Barker.

Of those still living...

Bob Lemke (correspond every now and then but would love to meet the man behind "the book")

Gar Miller (really helped me start my '50s collection)

Leon Luckey (will get a chance at the National!!)

For people out there who have not met the following, I really suggest taking a few minutes to sit with these people and just talk cards...(in no particular order)

Bob Marquette, Trevor Hocking, Adam Warshaw, Terry Knouse, Mark Macrae, Ted Z. (never can spell his darn name), Roger Neufeldt, Tim Newcomb, and Lew Lipset. These people have been invaluable to me over the years and I am always amazed by their depth of knowledge about their own collections and the stuff they sell, trade, or buy.

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Posted By: David Vargha

I would like to meet Jay Wolt and watch him consume mass quantities of beer and potato chips. I just know that the man is a conehead who has taken on the clever disguise of a baseball card dealer.

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: Al Crisafulli

I would like to meet David Vargha. He is my idol. Unfortunately it is against the law for me to come within 100 yards of him, until he drops the charges.

-Al

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Posted By: E, Daniel

Mmmmh...Keith Olberman. I've got some stuff he could have CHEAP!!!

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Posted By: T206Collector

...Burdick.

Oh, and, perhaps my grandson (I'm only 32 and have a 15 month old at home, who will eventually have a child that will be feverish about collecting baseball cards from 1909 to 1911).

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Posted By: andy becker

1) duke hott
2) copeland (don't even know his first name)
3) barry halper

i would also like to meet barry sloate and i would like to spend more time with lew lipset.

leon is not all he's cracked up to be

seriously, leon is a great guy with a tremendous amount of knowledge.

i also agree with gil, i would happily hang with any of the board members.....that's what make the nationals so much fun.

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Posted By: Trevor Hocking

What a great thread!

John Hocking

I would give my whole collection to spend one more day with my Grandfather sorting through 33 Goudeys or chasing the last Delong (His favorite set) card he needed at a weekend mall show. I would not be who I am today if it was not for him. He was a great collector and a better man.

Trevor

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Posted By: David Smith

The kid from the 19 teens or twenties who collected because his father and grandfather collected and whose collection was lost forever because of fire, flood, paper drives or by just being thrown away.

I would love to hear why and see what they collected, how they stored their cards and what cards they valued and why. Also, to see how some of the cards were issued and where they came from.

Finally, I would like to see how the loss of the collection affected them. Was it the cards themselves, the history behind collecting them, the love of baseball or the memories they had associated with them?

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Jim- lives in southern California.

Family had a chain of sporting goods stores by the same name.

Lovely man.

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Posted By: David Vargha

That's the same Copeland's? I bought lots of stuff from them while a UCSB student. At least I know the profits went towards a good cause.

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: Joshua

I would really like to meet Mr. Mint, and make the cover of SCD each week. That way I would know that I'm making great finds.

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Jefferson Burdick

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Posted By: jackgoodman

Easy - Frank Nagy - to thank him for treating a 15 year old as an adult. And selling me some awesome cards. Should have bought more.

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Posted By: andy becker

leon,
you type collectors are so predictable

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Posted By: Colt McClelland

Dave Terwilliger a/k/a murcerfan

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Posted By: Frank Evanov

Marshall Fogel. I'd like to discuss that PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle card!

Frank

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Santos, Last name not known

My father and i would drive up 9w to Nyack NY on sunday mornings to this older gents shop. I think it was over an antique store. Santos had the most amazing older cards to a 14 year old kid just getting started.
Anyway at one point my dad bought all of his sets from 1948-1955. He was a bowman guy having grown up in the late 40's early 50's.

Sorry for getting of topic but this guy had his cards stored in those old dewey decimel system drawers. (Remember those) Anyway he had the most amazing things in those drawers.

I would love to find out he was still going strong and sit and chat for an afternoon overlooking the hudson.

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Posted By: cn

Dan Dischley, I miss waiting every month for my copy of the Trader Speaks to arrive. Plus I work at the same job that Dan did even though he retired before I joined on.

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Posted By: craig

i'd have to agree with some of you that pretty much any of collections by this boards members would be awesome to see and share stories with. mainly though i would like to sit down with trevor hocking, your g-pa would be an experience all of its own also. you spoke kindly of him, over the phone, about his influence in your collecting of des moines items, which is also my passion as trevor knows. everytime i have needed some info and have been able to ask trevor he seems to be of great help. thanks trevor.

craig

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Posted By: jay behrens

LMFAO!!! I'm the first collector mentioned. Bet that irks Bruce

Personally, I'd go with Adam's choice of Tiger-Warton. Burdick would be second. I could never get tired of visitng Mark Macrae. He probably had the biggest influence on my collecting when I first met him in 1983.

I've met many of the members of this board and was lucky enough to meet most of the prominent collectors and dealers from the 70s and 80s.

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Easy.....
I would like to meet everyone who contributes to the board. I have been to busy with work and family to attend a show in the last 10 years, so I'd really like to buy a round at the National dinner in the next few years.

Be well Brian

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Posted By: Jack Richards

No question...Henry Eshelman. Not only is his collection legendary, but he's an outstanding ballplayer in his own right. Catcher, pitcher, creator of the unhittable "Esh." If Stan Musial weren't already the Man, Mr. Eshelman would be.

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Posted By: DJ

Marshall Fogel. I was going through his PSA registry the other day and was simply in awe.

Keith Olberman.

Penny Marshall.

Gotta throw Leon on there. The man must be soooo tolerant of "us" children in this giant Forum (shoe).

I have a friend who decided to take me into his "collecting room" and proudly brought out one binder after another and it was the coolest thing. Two guys sitting indian style on a plush carpet, surrounded by framed oversized baseball pieces and a glass cabinet packed with team balls, displayed pins and buttons and figurines. I don't think it was the cards and memorabilia itself, but the emotion and how proud he was of what he has acquired over the past fifty years. Nothing cooler than having that person introduce pieces for your viewing! I don't think his wife or friends could really appreciate what he had and I think it was a thrill for him as well that he had audience on this winter day!

DJ

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Posted By: Jeff Lowe




Walter Corson

I did meet him but I was too young to remember .

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Posted By: anthony

any vintage card collector that will leave his/her collection to me when they die...(not to be selfish or anything)

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Posted By: leon

What are you doing around here? Thanks for joining in. Find any more caches of N167's lately . Your dad is a great guy. You are very, very lucky.....but you already know that. I bet Walt was a great guy too, if he was anything like your dad is (I know they were good friends)...best regards

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I finally came out of the lurkers closet . Been looking for more quality cards for sure . Not to bore everyone looking at the thread but I am quite impressed by the knowledge on the board . There are some serious collectors here thats great .



Jeff

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Posted By: FYS

Besides all the already mentioned names: Randy Stuckemeyer.

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Posted By: Tim James

I would like to meet the "Moderator Dude" !
And coming in at # 714 it would be Barry Bonds !

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

In 1981 I met with hobby great, George Moll. I went to his home to interview
him for a BB Mag. article. George Moll was the genius behind Gum, Inc. during
1939 to 1943. The owner of Gum, Inc., of course was J. Warren Bowman, and they
produced all the PlayBall cards and did all that fantastic artwork for "The Horrors
of War" and the "War Gum" cards.

Then after WWII, George Moll was the genius behind all the Bowman cards from
1948 to 1955 (Sports and Non-Sports cards). Even though he was in his mid-80s
when I met him, George was like a little kid talking about and showing me his vast
collection and the original artwork that his agency created to produce these Gum
cards. His office walls were decorated with the original uncut sheets of PlayBall
and Bowman cards.

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

Bruce,

Nice thread!

I'd like to meet the guy that put together the Oregon Find collection of OJs. This guy put together one heck of a collection. I'd like to find out who his favorite players were and why. It'd be really interesting to know about how he amassed so many of the cards in the days of slow and limited communications. It'd be fun to find out how long it took to put that collection together.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

I've seen hom pnce since January 10.

Very busy man there.

Seriously, I've been in Mark's house severaltimes, always to see something specific--it would be folly to go over there to "look at his collection!"--and it's always been amazing. He isn't one of the very best known collectors in the country, but damn near, and it's so nice to have him around, always willing to answer questions about anything.

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