Opinions on authenticity of PSA 5 '33 Goudey Gehrig selling on eBay

[griffon512]

There are a few issues with the card that I see both on the front and back, but I wanted to get some educated opinions before going into further detail. Here's a link to the eBay auction:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...gAAOSw5utaY4Vh

Also, does anyone see potential issues with the flip?

[ullmandds]

Looks pretty good to me

[mechanicalman]

I was hoping someone would post about this.

Cons:

The flip has a font that doesn’t look right. The red bar on the bottom is aligned with the blue, when it’s usually misaligned.

On the pro side, the bat extends into the border. And it looks like you can see the ink through the back.

But I know there are more educated dudes here whose opinion I’m anxious to hear.

[griffon512]

since you alluded to it but had a different take, one of the issues i see is that the "bleed through" of red from front to back is not aligned with the centering of the red on the front. look at how off center the red is on the back versus the close to perfect centering on the front.

also, look at 3 and 4 from this link (links to an image of a real gehrig and shows differentiating features of real vs counterfeits) to see a couple of other potential issues: https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click

[conor912]

Ink bleeding on the back is consistent with legit, but the front looks off....maybe bleached? My guess is this card is real, but has been treated with something. Also, the print on the flip is really crooked. I don't recall ever noticing it that bad on other flips I've seen.

[CW]

Maybe it's just the scan, or I am seeing things, but doesn't it look like there's a thin line where the left border meets the blue background? That shouldn't be there on an authentic card, no?

[CW]

And you are right, James, about the #4 section looking funky on this card. Typically the Red will extend out a bit to the right, but on this eBay card the red is perfectly aligned.

[conor912]

Should we look at his Ruth while we're at it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...MAAOSwubFaY4gE

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by conor912

Should we look at his Ruth while we're at it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...MAAOSwubFaY4gE

looks fine to me!!!

[LeftHandedDane]

He has taken the listing down.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by LeftHandedDane

He has taken the listing down.

He messaged me back and said he has collected for 62 yrs and had no idea compromised holders were/are an issue. He does now.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

If Ruth or his Flip are fake they are FAR superior. I think it's fine.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by Leon

He messaged me back and said he has collected for 62 yrs and had no idea compromised holders were/are an issue. He does now.

I can't say that his response inspires confidence although the rest of what he's selling appears authentic. The Gehrig looks like it came from the same batch of fake cards that originated in Mexico and were disseminated widely on Craigslist.

[bobbyw8469]

The Ruth looks good...the Gehrig does not.