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Old 01-07-2015, 04:33 PM
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Default Show your T206 card(s) that are more scarce than the JOE DOYLE NAT'L card

There are only 8 authentic Joe Doyle Nat'L cards confirmed to date.

It has been referred to as the "rarest" T206 card by some in the hobby.

Well....I don't think so ! And I don't think you do either. So, let's see how many T206's we can post here that are more rare than the "rarest".


I will get this show on the road with these four Detroit dudes with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 backs. As of today, each one of these T206's are
less available than the Joe Doyle Nat'L card.














1 of only 2 graded




Incidently, why was my Jennings graded an "A" ....I don't understand how a grader determines if an AB 460 card is trimmed ?
I look forward to any reasonable explanation of this ? ?


OK guys......post your rare T206 cards......also, Joe Doyle Nat'L cards are welcomed



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Old 01-07-2015, 04:40 PM
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Try to regrade that Jennings imo. Have had more slim ABS graded numerically.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:16 PM
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Default Show your T206 card(s) that are more scarce than the JOE DOYLE NAT'L card

Highest graded of only 4 that have been graded

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Old 01-07-2015, 07:52 PM
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Hi Ted- AB 460's are tuffer than most people think...

I used to own this Jennings example, it sold recently on eBay. Seems like it went for a steal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Hugh-Hu...vip=true&rt=nc

Not suggesting this is scarcer than the Doyle (although it might be), but here's my Wheat AB 460.

PS- This Hoblitzel Blank Back is the only known example.
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Not sure this will meet Runscott's no scrap criteria but I would think its a 1/1.

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Only 4 graded, however there are probably at least few more out there....



One of 4 graded, however this one isn't even showing on the SGC pop report...can't trust those too much I suppose:

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Possibly, this WaJo. Pop reports show 4 for SGC and 1 for PSA (but not mine, which I assume was graded before PSA distinguished backs in its pop report).
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:45 PM
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Not sure this will meet Runscott's no scrap criteria but I would think its a 1/1.

Hey, my suggested thread was ignored, so leave me out of this.

Beautiful proof, by the way.
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Old 01-08-2015, 05:56 PM
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Ted, why don't you start a thread "T206's that are more scarce than a T206 Wagner"?
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Hey, my suggested thread was ignored, so leave me out of this.
So, what is thread about....if it isn't what you suggested ? ?

I changed the "benchmark" to the Joe Doyle Nat'l card, since this card is an order of magnitude less available than the Wagner card.
Just to make things more interesting.


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Old 01-10-2015, 07:19 PM
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Default Show your T206 card(s) that are more scarce than the JOE DOYLE NAT'L card

I acquired this BROAD LEAF Hal Chase many years ago in a trade with a great ole buddy of mine from North Carolina. Little did I know at that time that it was unique.
Well, this past year a 2nd BROAD LEAF Hal Chase has been discovered.


............................................... v....... 1 of only 2 ........v
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I got your back Ted.

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Old 01-13-2015, 09:23 AM
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Learning something new everyday. Very cool!



American Lithographic ran thru final press runs of SWEET CAPORAL 460 (Factory #30) cards from the 350/460 series (of which your unique Ames is in). However,
the 57 subjects in this series were never issued with Factory #30 backs.

Circa late 1910 (or early 1911), in anticipation of the ATC divestiture, these SWEET CAP cards were overprinted with Factory #42 (Durham, NC) and shipped there
to be inserted in SWEET CAP cigarette packs.

Here is a Factory #42 overprint which is sufficiently off-set that it reveals the original Factory #30 lettering.


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Old 01-13-2015, 11:21 AM
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Sorry for derailing Ted's show
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Old 01-13-2015, 01:54 PM
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No problem......"rail-on" all you want....it's entertaining



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Old 01-13-2015, 03:30 PM
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Default Ted.........

thanks for illustrating...........

I'm dying for Chris to release some of his research in this error scrap back...

then you will see guys trying to "re assemble" the sheet....using these scrap pieces as puzzle pieces!

it's awesome shit!

these sc 460 no overprint scraps will be chased...

I want to put together the subset

Turner just picked up a tiny piece of history!

I'm on 6 of these.....and 1 of them is the only known specimen that I do own...

Mc intyre....

like magee w/ bat, donlin, ect....Chris will elaborate when he is ready

this one goes out to Jim R, Mike S, and Chris for his research help with me
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