Chemicals changed this color, it is not a scrap

[danmckee]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-sc...item3f124ccd4d

[Matthew H]

It's the rare fallout variation!

[rp12367]

Thanks Dan, I was the current high bidder. I was going to post question later today to see if it was legit, I didn't think so, so my bid wasn't much, but I have since cancelled my bid. Saw it this morning on my phone while at work so I couldn't zoom in on pic too good.

[atx840]

This was listed at a BIN for $350, glad I passed before as Johnny confirmed my suspicion that this is done after the factory through some sort of environmental condition.

Dan, do you think this was part of the same group as the Brown and Bender missing colour with writing, I have scans but not sure if they should be put out there?

[t206blogcom]

How can you tell it's been chemically altered?

[danmckee]

I don't know how to explain that except that there is a "spill" stain like, possibly from the glue that was used on back. I have a few of these Frankensteins in my collection.

Also, a true printing freak would have discoloration in the face as well and not just around it.

It is hard to explain, maybe one of the T206 guru's can explain this better.

I think we have more experts on this board than anywhere else.

Also, I am not sure if this is from the same crop as the other 2 you mentioned, I have seen this type of staining for about 15 years now.

Dan

[atx840]

A few of the known ones out there.

[atx840]

Why would someone buy this?Hopefully it does not end up at a bigger auction house.

[milkit1]

well I am the dope that bought this card. Thats what i get for not following the forum today lol. Looked like scrap material to me. I got this killer Dahlen pic and was wanting something special to mat with it. Do you think I could file soemthing with ebay about finding out its not a scrap, like item not as described or whatever?

dahlen pic.jpg

[Leon]

Originally Posted by atx840

Why would someone buy this?

Because they didn't know and don't read the board?

[mrvster]

Sean,

Don't beat urself up......we all make mistakes.....at least you didn't dump like $500.00 beans on it.....

I would ask seller for refund, or just don't pay.......is the money worth a negative??up to you.....seller hopefully will make good, i always try to see the good in people...but honest mistake dude....

Peace

John ny

[Leon]

Sean
No big deal. Tell the seller it's not as advertised and kindly request a refund. Be very nice. If they they say they won't refund you, file with ebay and there is almost a 100% chance you will get your money back. It's not as advertised. Not a big deal and maybe they didn't know either....best regards

[milkit1]

yeah thats what i am going to try. I've never had any inclination towards collecting scraps but have been looking for a Dahlen for some time now. I saw the card for the first time this morning on my phone and placed a snipe never dreaming Id actually get it since $60 for a genuine scrap would be a darn good deal. Maybe I can talk the seller in to $20 cause its still a pretty crazy looking card

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sean
No big deal. Tell the seller it's not as advertised and kindly request a refund. Be very nice. If they they say they won't refund you, file with ebay and there is almost a 100% chance you will get your money back. It's not as advertised. Not a big deal and maybe they didn't know either....best regards

Leon, I think you would be wrong about the outcome. The scans are very clear and the end price was very low, indicating that plenty of people realized that when the seller said it "appears to be scrap", he was incorrect. Besides, how are you going to argue with ebay what 'scrap' actually is? People on this board can't even agree.

[atx840]

Just about to post this, the 8th example I've seen, must have been the glue or solvent used to remove them.