Pwcc

[Snapolit1]

The nonstop cards this guy rolls out every week is staggering. Has a CJ Joe Jackson SGC 92 that's stunning. Almost like he owns eBay these days. Seems to have everything. Yes, and I have read the threads bashing PWCC and realize some of you aren't fans.

[Jersey City Giants]

I'm a bit new to the board, why do people bash him? All my dealings with him have been super smooth!

[Billy5858]

Brent treats me a "small roller" well.
Don't always get deals but get what Im looking for
usually. I need to look on EBay sounds
like he just rolled out a new Auction?

[Joshwesley]

That's just insane...
It's gonna go for over 100k when all said and done

[Leon]

link to CJ Jackson...great looking card...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Cracker...3D351746384051

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[Billy5858]

Check this PWCC T205 Cobby American Beauty back........WAY out of my league



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T205-Go...0AAOSwagdXSg7H

[Batpig]

Originally Posted by Jersey City Giants

I'm a bit new to the board, why do people bash him? All my dealings with him have been super smooth!

The main thing is shilling within his auctions, but honestly Brent probably does more than most brokers to investigate it. Personally, since he recently changed his rate structure, I send any card over $50 or so to him to handle. I've always had great experiences with him. The prices he gets are typically higher than what I'd get on my own, plus there's the chance he'll give it a pwcc-he which will get it a nice premium.

[1952boyntoncollector]

if dont like pwcc prices..have fun with those great BINs on ebay...real bargains there

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

if dont like pwcc prices..have fun with those great BINs on ebay...real bargains there

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

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[Pilot172000]

I have had good luck on some deals with his auctions. Trying hard not to spend any more money but this current auction is making it really hard.

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

plus buying almost any key 50s rookie card from pwcc 8 months ago certainly would look like a great deal now..

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Now that is funny.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

Problem with "anyone else" is they are either an AH that shills and uses 1980's software to cover it up, or they're BIN trollers with cards 1 to 2 grades lower than the flip and at 2x VCP.

Time is money, and PWCC doesn't waste my time like these other bozos.

[begsu1013]

buying groups.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

Exactly!!! Some of the peanut sellers practically gave stuff away! A much better deal buying from one of them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

buying groups.

No, just stiff competition for nice cards. Including those that double in a week, or even overnight as we just saw with Ryan. Carry on.

[bobbyw8469]

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, just stiff competition for nice cards. Including those that double in a week, or even overnight as we just saw with Ryan. Carry on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

Ask Bob.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

Buying key 50s rookies from almost anyone else 8 months ago would have been an even better deal.

i guess you are referring to those great BINs...and people never want new records highs or think they have the best example of a card for the grade when dealing with private sellers...and of course private sellers never list a card and when cant get what they want do the 'ill keep it'

theres no 'ill keep it' with pwcc..if you win the item you going to get the card 99.99% i assume...pwcc doesnt say 'ill keep it..


too easy to say you get a better deal buying direct...the other issue is from who? you see people begging for cards on net54 all the time even offering reward to people who can find the card....and that sought after card can and does show up on in a pwcc auction on more than one occasion....easy to say its cheaper somewhere else ..without knowing where somewhere else is.....not saying you can never find a better deal somewhere else but you cant say the opposite either

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Very odd. Sustainable? Or like the real estate/dot com bubble? I guess time will tell.

easy to pay ton for card if planning on flipping it and not holding it.....hmm thats what happened with real estate too...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Problem with "anyone else" is they are either an AH that shills and uses 1980's software to cover it up, or they're BIN trollers with cards 1 to 2 grades lower than the flip and at 2x VCP.

Time is money, and PWCC doesn't waste my time like these other bozos.

I disagree. I've bought many very nice cards at good prices from sellers in addition to PWCC. You may be describing some people accurately but not nearly the universe. Many guys who list BINs are very flexible and only list high to encourage direct sales.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I disagree. I've bought many very nice cards at good prices from sellers in addition to PWCC. You may be describing some people accurately but not nearly the universe. Many guys who list BINs are very flexible and only list high to encourage direct sales.

like 707?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

like 707?

I have not bought anything from Levi in a long time.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have not bought anything from Levi in a long time.

look how much he counters you on a BIN...try 10 examples..let me know if he goes down by more than 1 or 2%

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

look how much he counters you on a BIN...try 10 examples..let me know if he goes down by more than 1 or 2%

That may be, but I was not talking about Levi, he has his own model and obviously it works for him.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That may be, but I was not talking about Levi, he has his own model and obviously it works for him.

right..and pwcc has a model too and works for them..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right..and pwcc has a model too and works for them..

I agree, but what does any of this have to do with my point that there are many places in my opinion to buy cards?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

look how much he counters you on a BIN...try 10 examples..let me know if he goes down by more than 1 or 2%

I got a 3% discount last time (35 off a 1250 list) when I offered to buy off ebay through his website. I was looking for slightly more.

As for PWCC prices I think they seem high because we all watch the big cards breaking records. But they're breaking records everywhere right now. Memory Lane, REA, Heritage, Goodwin. Every time an auction ends there is a thread about the price of some card or cards. There are deals available on all of them, PWCC included. Just not on cards like Clemente and Rose rookies.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I agree, but what does any of this have to do with my point that there are many places in my opinion to buy cards?

cards yes..but not the key cards the poster was talking about ie waterside properties...where can i get a nice RC mantle 1951.....eventually can get a shot at it in a pwcc auction or maybe another auction..much harder to find a private seller out there

you want a 1954 topps psa 8 kaline...one is listed on ebay now for 10k....5 or so of them have sold the last 3 months with pwcc for 6-7k......where else can you get a psa 8 kaline in the next 30 days....one will be listed soon with pwcc.....if looking for a common 1954 topps psa 6...normal guy..yeah lots of places to look

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I got a 3% discount last time (35 off a 1250 list) when I offered to buy off ebay through his website. I was looking for slightly more.

As for PWCC prices I think they seem high because we all watch the big cards breaking records. But they're breaking records everywhere right now. Memory Lane, REA, Heritage, Goodwin. Every time an auction ends there is a thread about the price of some card or cards. There are deals available on all of them, PWCC included. Just not on cards like Clemente and Rose rookies.

right..but clemente cards look cheap now if bought them 3 months ago......its about the key cards....its always about the key cards with auction houses.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Maybe they are a grade or more short of waterfront status but in the last year or so I have bought a Mays 5.5, Aaron 5.5, Koufax 6, Clemente 6, F and B Robinson 7, lots of 60s and 70s RCs in 7 and 8, 50s Mantles in 7, at what I considered good prices from various sources none of which happened to be PWCC. There is a lot more to the world than 5 rookies in 8s.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe they are a grade or more short of waterfront status but in the last year or so I have bought a Mays 5.5, Aaron 5.5, Koufax 6, Clemente 6, F and B Robinson 7, lots of 60s and 70s RCs in 7 and 8, 50s Mantles in 7, at what I considered good prices from various sources none of which happened to be PWCC. There is a lot more to the world than 5 rookies in 8s.

right most of those arent the cards that people are offering bountys for....people are talking about high grade CJ jackons etc....good luck finding those direct at a price you want ..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right most of those arent the cards that people are offering bountys for....people are talking about high grade CJ jackons etc....good luck finding those direct at a price you want ..

Beastmode's claim that there was noplace else to buy seemed a lot broader than a few elite cards. That is what I was responding to. It has never been easy to find a high grade CJ Jackson, don't kid yourself.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Beastmode's claim that there was noplace else to buy seemed a lot broader than a few elite cards. That is what I was responding to. It has never been easy to find a high grade CJ Jackson, don't kid yourself.

understood..tough to find a green cobb in a 4 centered as well etc....there are lots of people that go on net54 that have seen the ebay bins but want a better example of a card and offer bountys and theres a good chance they do show up at a pwcc auction..... its about price and being able to find the card..

[Peter_Spaeth]

No denying that Brent always has a great selection of cards.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No denying that Brent always has a great selection of cards.

He has grown astronomically huge from his beginnings years ago. So much to the point that maybe a cataloged auction is in order?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

He has grown astronomically huge from his beginnings years ago. So much to the point that maybe a cataloged auction is in order?

I think one of his attractions to consignors is the low fees he charges by keeping his expenses down. I doubt he needs to change anything.

[Touch'EmAll]

There is a lot more to the world than 1950's-60's RC's. Er, um, uh, how about pre-war? The current RC craze now makes pre-war look more value minded than ever before. I was never into RC's, and now double no. Putting my $ into top tier pre-war HOFers in mid grade and higher, I have no regrets.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

There is a lot more to the world than 1950's-60's RC's. Er, um, uh, how about pre-war? The current RC craze now makes pre-war look more value minded than ever before. I was never into RC's, and now double no. Putting my $ into top tier pre-war HOFers in mid grade and higher, I have no regrets.

I agree. There were some very nice prewar cards of major HOFers that sold pretty modestly in Heritage, for example, including a couple I was lucky enough to win. Green Cobbs, Yellow Ruths, and maybe a couple of others are really hot, but otherwise, prices seem pretty stable to me.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ask Bob.

the sky is most definitely falling.

[begsu1013]

oh....and been doing so for the last 4 years.

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i guess you are referring to those great BINs...and people never want new records highs or think they have the best example of a card for the grade when dealing with private sellers...and of course private sellers never list a card and when cant get what they want do the 'ill keep it'

theres no 'ill keep it' with pwcc..if you win the item you going to get the card 99.99% i assume...pwcc doesnt say 'ill keep it..


too easy to say you get a better deal buying direct...the other issue is from who? you see people begging for cards on net54 all the time even offering reward to people who can find the card....and that sought after card can and does show up on in a pwcc auction on more than one occasion....easy to say its cheaper somewhere else ..without knowing where somewhere else is.....not saying you can never find a better deal somewhere else but you cant say the opposite either

There are many other options outside of PWCC for buying cards. Just look in VCP and pick any card and look at what PWCC gets for it in a particular month and then look at others which have sold for in the same month. The PWCC premium is material.

[jmb]

This is approximately a $1000 card listed last night. 92 bids, really, most one user ID ? Just a complete waste of time. Who has the time to bid that many times ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Goudey-...EAAOSwQaJXTJHW

[Snapolit1]

Guy apparently does the same thing on comic book related toys, so who knows. Seems like a huge waste of time and energy to me. You are not getting a $1000 card for $200. He should know that. So bid $500 and see what happens. Not that you will get it at $500 either. . . .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Guy apparently does the same thing on comic book related toys, so who knows. Seems like a huge waste of time and energy to me. You are not getting a $1000 card for $200. He should know that. So bid $500 and see what happens. Not that you will get it at $500 either. . . .

He has 77 bids on it so far lol.

[swarmee]

There are some shill bidders who make tons of incremental bids in order to get their item higher in the search rankings or the Hottest cards list.

[begsu1013]

even if it technically doesn't "hurt" anything, it shouldn't be done!

in fact if it's him bidding on his card to help w/ the "hot/number of bids factor", it seems like the only thing it could hurt is the number of bidders that would actually decide to go in because of such activity.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jmb

This is approximately a $1000 card listed last night. 92 bids, really, most one user ID ? Just a complete waste of time. Who has the time to bid that many times ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Goudey-...EAAOSwQaJXTJHW

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He has 77 bids on it so far lol.

He is bidding against himself over and over again? It's not like someone beat his previous bid so he outbid them again, he is bidding against his own previous bids.

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[TheNightmanCometh]

If I were to try and bid up my item, not that I ever would, that's exactly how I would do it. I don't want to throw in a number if I don't know what the max bid is. If it's $200 and I bid $500 then I essentially kill any and all potential action. Now, if I bid $10 at a time then once I hit past the bidders max bid it's only $10 more, thus not killing the action.

[Exhibitman]

I got a nice 1972 Topps Rose from the last PWCC auction. The price was great and the card arrived safely and as advertised. Like any other sale, you just have to control yourself when bidding in PWCC. I had a ceiling, the card came in below it, I own it. If the card exceeded my ceiling, I would pass on it and keep looking. None of this mainstream stuff is rare, just expensive, so if you don't like the price, move along to the next one.