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View Poll Results: Do Baines and/or Smith belong in the Hall of Fame?
Yes to both 48 10.98%
Yes to Baines, No to Smith 4 0.92%
Yes to Smith, No to Baines 182 41.65%
No to both 203 46.45%
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:16 AM
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How is it that the 16 person panel comprised Harold's former manager, former GM, and former owner? Only seven year ago, over 95% of baseball writers felt Baines did not belong in the Hall. If you're going to change that, could you at least pick a panel with a little more impartiality?
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:31 AM
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How is it that the 16 person panel comprised Harold's former manager, former GM, and former owner? Only seven year ago, over 95% of baseball writers felt Baines did not belong in the Hall. If you're going to change that, could you at least pick a panel with a little more impartiality?
I would add to that, I don't think players who played with him are the right voters either. Too much opportunity for cronyism, friendships, etc. For better or worse people not part of organized baseball should be voting IMO.
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When I first saw the news of their induction, I thought I was reading The Onion. For reasons that other posters have already covered, I voted no on both.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:46 AM
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I am solidly behind Smith. His induction bid with the writers was hurt by several things: Utterly forgettable name, poor relationship with the press, largely playing for bad teams. Still, when you retire #1 in the metric that is used to judge your position, a Hall of Fame nod is a reasonable expectation.

Interesting I Googled Lee Smith THIS MORNING and got several results back for the Oakland Raiders Tight End.

Off the top of my head, there are a dozen position players I would have taken over Baines, though I consider myself a fan. Definitely a low-end HOFer.
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I reject Baines because my spellchecker changes his name to Gaines.

Smith is okay.
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I had lunch with 4 non-baseball, but avid sports fans (football and basketball fans mostly). Ages 40-50.

None of the 4 had even HEARD the name of Baines or Smith!

They could name other baseball players, football players, soccer players, race car drivers, horses that won the triple crown ... heck one guy could even name a professional darts player.

But they never even HEARD of Baines or Smith (even after I prompted them by mentioning the teams they played for and positions they played).

If sports fans don't know your name ... you don't belong in the Hall of "Fame".

It's really that simple.
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