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Old 03-14-2019, 04:22 PM
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IMO, some (ooops! make that a few) of you guys are WAY, WAY OFF!

I think Mays and Aaron are a cut above the rest.

...and I don't rank cheaters...but, that's just me and my bothersome standards.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:12 PM
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IMO, some (ooops! make that a few) of you guys are WAY, WAY OFF!

I think Mays and Aaron are a cut above the rest.

...and I don't rank cheaters...but, that's just me and my bothersome standards.
I would agree that Mays and Aaron the top 2, but Griffey Jr. would have to be #3 in my opinion (among non-pitchers). Hadn't looked at the stats for Pujols for a while because his career hasn't been as prominent while with the Angels, but they make a strong case for number 4. After that, some great candidates for #5: Schmidt, Murray, Brett, Bench, etc. Trout on a trajectory to get there, and I think he will, but we'll have to wait, enjoy watching him, and see if the continues his greatness.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:08 AM
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When I included Trout on my list I thought it was crazy as well. Nonetheless the question was who is the greatest living player. I think the 8 seasons he has produced are impossible to deny. I'm not even an Angels fan but I believe we are already witnessing one of the top 5 players in the history of the game and at age 28 he is entering his prime. He is so damn good people forget he is only one year older than Machado and Harper.

Trout vs. All-Time Leaders Through Age-27 Seasons

HR TROUT 240 Barry Bonds 142
HITS TROUT 1,187 Pete Rose 899
BASES TROUT 2,219 Hank Aaron 2,305
RUNS TROUT 793 Rickey Henderson 732
WALKS TROUT 693 Barry Bonds 484

His first Eight seasons have produced a Rookie of the year, two MVP Awards, Finished second in MVP voting 4 times and ranked 4th once. He has earned
Six Silver Slugger Awards, Seven All Star Games, twice named as All Star Game MVP
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Old 03-16-2019, 06:56 AM
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When I included Trout on my list I thought it was crazy as well. Nonetheless the question was who is the greatest living player. I think the 8 seasons he has produced are impossible to deny. I'm not even an Angels fan but I believe we are already witnessing one of the top 5 players in the history of the game and at age 28 he is entering his prime. He is so damn good people forget he is only one year older than Machado and Harper.

Trout vs. All-Time Leaders Through Age-27 Seasons

HR TROUT 240 Barry Bonds 142
HITS TROUT 1,187 Pete Rose 899
BASES TROUT 2,219 Hank Aaron 2,305
RUNS TROUT 793 Rickey Henderson 732
WALKS TROUT 693 Barry Bonds 484

His first Eight seasons have produced a Rookie of the year, two MVP Awards, Finished second in MVP voting 4 times and ranked 4th once. He has earned
Six Silver Slugger Awards, Seven All Star Games, twice named as All Star Game MVP
He should have better #s at age 27 because he played more years/games at age 27 than any of the other players you compared him to.

Here is some more #s using the same criteria you used.
HR Trout 240 HR A Rod 345 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Hits Trout 1,187 Ty Cobb 1,727 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Bases Trout 2,219 A Rod 2,899 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Runs Trout 793 Mel Ott 1.032 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Walks Trout 693 Mickey Mantle 892 Finally a list Trout is really on. He is #10

I did find Trout in one more top ten through age 27 list. He it tied at #6 with Jose Canseco for most strikeouts at 998.

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I understand Nolan Ryans popularity but Top 5 living player? Ahead of Seaver? No way.
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Hank Aaron
Willie Mays
Johnny Bench
Ken Griffey Jr.
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He should have better #s at age 27 because he played more years/games at age 27 than any of the other players you compared him to.

Here is some more #s using the same criteria you used.
HR Trout 240 HR A Rod 345 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Hits Trout 1,187 Ty Cobb 1,727 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Bases Trout 2,219 A Rod 2,899 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Runs Trout 793 Mel Ott 1.032 Trout isn't even in the top 10 at age 27
Walks Trout 693 Mickey Mantle 892 Finally a list Trout is really on. He is #10

I did find Trout in one more top ten through age 27 list. He it tied at #6 with Jose Canseco for most strikeouts at 998.

You almost lost me at A-Rod. No arguements here when comparing him to the overall best numbers at age 27. However, I was comparing him to the all time leaders in those individual categories at age 27.
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IMO, some (ooops! make that a few) of you guys are WAY, WAY OFF!

I think Mays and Aaron are a cut above the rest.

...and I don't rank cheaters...but, that's just me and my bothersome standards.
Almost every player has “cheated” in one form or another.
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Almost every player has “cheated” in one form or another.
Words of wisdom from a Giants fan Rob? I have heard similar sentiments from other Giant fans when discussing the merits of a certain ex Pirate.
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Words of wisdom from a Giants fan Rob? I have heard similar sentiments from other Giant fans when discussing the merits of a certain ex Pirate.
“If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.”
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