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Old 09-21-2011, 09:10 PM
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Default Goodwin & Co. Auction Results

It's always nice to be the only bidder on a lot when it goes to extended bidding.

I'm very pleased to add this T213-2 to my Chief Meyers collection.

I believe it's my first Brooklyn card.

Best of luck to everyone else!


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Old 09-22-2011, 05:01 AM
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I did my first consignment ever with Goodwin last night. Three lots. Two lots went so-so, the third went way under VCP. I would have done better selling that one on Ebay myself. I bid on multiple lots and didn't win anything. I was the direct underbidder on the Sport Kings Babe Ruth. I thought the card looked sharp, but it technically bothered me with the paper loss on the bottom back, and at the top that wasn't mentioned. Not sure if technically a card with paper loss can be a '4'. Also, the case was cracked at both the joints on the front. Didn't want the hassle of re-casing it. Anyway, that is how I fared. Would love to hear others.....

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Old 09-22-2011, 06:10 AM
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I was the direct underbidder on the Sport Kings Babe Ruth. I thought the card looked sharp, but it technically bothered me with the paper loss on the bottom back, and at the top that wasn't mentioned. Not sure if technically a card with paper loss can be a '4'.
PSA is notorious for missing paper loss. From a technical standpoint you are correct, that is not a 4.
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Due to some financial constraints I couldn't go for at least one card I wanted, though there will be another one of those. To me, in looking at the auction, it seems great items that are scarcely seen, AND in high demand, continue to fetch great prices. Other cards, even though as scarce, but with less audience, aren't faring as well. I was happy to see the #1 lot go for over 5k, when another board member and myself fought over this one on ebay approximately 6 mos ago, a grade higher (no pinhole but stain on back), for about 40% of that final price...In a cursory view, skimming the auction, seems prices were fairly strong.

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Happy with this one!

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Default same here Leon

I was a spectator for the most part, didn't have the funds to chase some of the higher priced items.

It's almost like 10 new t213 buyers were born to the market. Goodwin gets excellent prices for some of those cards... especially compared to what they are selling for on ebay..
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Default Goodwin..

I have one question : What time did the auction finally end ? I gave up the ghost at 2am central and finally put in a max bid on one card, which was not approached. I don't like putting in max bids as it makes you feel like a target. Luckily, my max bid was not approached...

The Type 1 Coupon's fetched strong prices, especially the Cobb and Southern Leaguer's.

- Ted Z. - I hope you finally captured the Ted B Type 1 !
- Jim R. - I hope you won the half dozen SLer's Coupon's! (I put in firm bids, but didn't want to chase them through the roof)
- Chris - I hope you got your SL Type 1 example as well...

Strong prices on many lots... I won this one card after looking for it for 11 years...
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Default 1910 COUPON red Cobb (T213-1)

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Just my opinion....the 1910 COUPON Cobb (at this point in time) proves to be the scarcest of the the white-bordered red Cobb's.

With only 10 examples known (pop report data), it's a bit scarcer than the Ty Cobb back version of the red Cobb (15 known).


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I'm happy with this one since it represents a great looking front (than most of the T213-1 Cobb's).


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Scarcest red background Cobb t206?

What about drum, uzit, lenox?
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Scarcest red background Cobb t206?

What about drum, uzit, lenox?
Hmmmm BL460.....but I'm no T206 expert...

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Old 09-22-2011, 09:28 AM
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Scarcest red background Cobb t206?

What about drum, uzit, lenox?

I am referring to the general Tobacco issues (T206, T213, T214, and TY COBB brand) of the red Cobb.

Not their brand sub-sets.

As of today, pop-reports regarding the T206 BROAD LEAF 460, DRUM & LENOX indicate that just a few
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Incidently, there is no UZIT red Cobb.

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I am referring to the general Tobacco issues (T206, T213, T214, and TY COBB brand) of the red Cobb.

Not their brand sub-sets.

As of today, pop-reports regarding the T206 BROAD LEAF 460, DRUM & LENOX indicate that just a few
examples of the red Cobb with these backs have been graded.

Incidently, there is no UZIT red Cobb.

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Ted- Are you saying you think the T214 Victory is more common than the T213-1 Red Cobb?
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:59 AM
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I have seen four T214 Cobb's in the past 30 years. Presently, I don't know how many are graded.

Perhaps, some one here will check-out the various pop-reports and report the data regarding the
VICTORY brand Cobb's.


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Old 09-22-2011, 04:41 PM
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I scored a Hat Trick!




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Auction finally ended at around 4:30-4:45 AM EST.

Thought about competing with you Pete on the Robinson... glad you got it though!
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Auction finally ended at around 4:30-4:45 AM EST.

Thought about competing with you Pete on the Robinson... glad you got it though!

Thanks, it's a beauty. Now I just nope it's not trimmed when I get it. I think there were only 3 bids on that puppy.
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Are you doing the set? These are 3 tough and great cards - congrats!

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Old 09-22-2011, 05:42 PM
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Had a good laugh though at this quote from Goodwin's description on the E90-1 Speaker:

"Cards of Speaker are virtually non-existent."

Huh?????????????

Speaker played for decades. My master list of Speaker cards - during his active career - is as long as my arm.

He is one of the very few who has a card in T206 and 1933 Goudey.

Sometimes the sales pitch goes WAY beyond reality...

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Old 09-23-2011, 09:11 PM
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Had a good laugh though at this quote from Goodwin's description on the E90-1 Speaker:

"Cards of Speaker are virtually non-existent."

Huh?????????????

Speaker played for decades. My master list of Speaker cards - during his active career - is as long as my arm.

He is one of the very few who has a card in T206 and 1933 Goudey.

Sometimes the sales pitch goes WAY beyond reality...

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Hi Blair. I don't remember the description but that is wild. Maybe he meant the E90-1 Speaker cards are virtually non-existent as that card is arguably next to McLean and Shean, the toughest in the set.
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Thanks Blair.

I'm not doing the entire set; just collecting the hall of famers. With these three, I now need only the Keeler portrait w/ red background.

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Thanks Blair.

I'm not doing the entire set; just collecting the hall of famers. With these three, I now need only the Keeler portrait w/ red background.

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Awesome - quite a nice accomplishment!

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I was quite surprised at how high the E104-III Grant went!
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Not sure how accurate this is

Only three Ty Cobbs have been graded: one is graded PSA GOOD 2, and two examples (including this one) are graded SGC GOOD 30. Incredibly, the T214 Victory Ty Cobb is even rarer than suggested by these modest population report numbers, as the three graded examples represent only two different cards. (It is our understanding that many years ago the PSA GOOD 2 example was crossed over to an SGC GOOD 30 holder, and the old PSA label was never returned to correct the pop report).

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I was quite surprised at how high the E104-III Grant went!

me too....I was figuring 2k....
I'm not the least bit surprised by that result. It's an absolutely spectacular card.
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It was certainly spectacular for the grade, but it is very very high by pricing standards for E104-IIIs (which I've been following for a number of years now).

The last SGC 70 Tully Sparks sold for only a little more $$$, and this Grant sold for significantly more than two of the [uncatalogued at the time] Dooin cards that surfaced a few years ago, one at the same grade, one higher.

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FWIW, Huggins & Scott handled a raw "new to the hobby" T214 Victory Cobb a couple of years back.
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Huggins & Scott handled a raw "new to the hobby" T214 Victory Cobb a couple of years back.
it is the same one that was referenced earlier and subsequently auctioned by rea 15 months later...
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