September Pick Ups

[Big Six]

Hey Carlton...is that boxing piece signed by JJ? Says "from your old pal..."

[rjackson44]

Dunking donuts big cardboard ad,mets and Yankees mgrs,for free just a lot of coffee

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by Big Six

Hey Carlton...is that boxing piece signed by JJ? Says "from your old pal..."

Close in of Jeffries Sig

Mat/Big Six
Yeah funny you should mention that...I had been eyeballing that myself today. Now that I've got it home I was examining it closer with a magnifying glass.

I've gone on line and looked for examples of his sig. As far as I can tell it's kind of a minefield of pluses and negatives trying to tell if it's his. On one hand most of the examples I've seen, providing they're legit, have been signed "Jas J Jeffries" where as with mine it's "James J. Jeffries"...his first name spelled out completely....But from what I've seen the "Jas" sigs were from later in his life...maybe in 1910 he wasn't burned out signing his full name yet...Then there's the shape of all those J's...After a while it got overwhelming and I gave up trying to decide. The one thing that most impressed me was the slash between "July 27" and "1910"...I saw that on one of the examples and it seemed to quirky for an armature faker to remember to add....unless he was copying a real sig verbatim....which seems unlikely...

See what I mean? you get fatigued trying to figure all the possibilities and angles. If you stop and think about it, it's only signed by Jeffries...not Johnson....If someone was going to doll up the photo with fake autographs why just Jeffries?...why not Johnson too? And then there's the question why so small a sig? and why where it's at.. at lower right? why not by where he's standing in the ring?....

I just don't know...all this from someone who isn't an autograph guy....I just bought it because I liked the image and large format....I didn't even notice the personalization when I was buying it....I just dismissed it as part of a bunch of names someone wrote in.

Jack Dempsey and 1931 is also written on it...I'm too exhausted from the Jeffries to even get into that...why it's there and if it's a real Dempsey!

[murphusa]

You said earlier that it was on the wall of a bar. If the fighters cam into the bar and signed while screwed to the wall??? Maybe that is why Johnson isn't on it and why Dempsey has 1931

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by murphusa

You said earlier that it was on the wall of a bar. If the fighters cam into the bar and signed while screwed to the wall??? Maybe that is why Johnson isn't on it and why Dempsey has 1931

The Jeffries and Dempsey are 21 years apart...moreover the Jeffries is dated July 27th and the fight took place on July 4th 1910....23 days after the fight....who knows when the bar owner acquired and hung it...Jeffries was from Los Angeles and probably lived in Southern Calif in 1910....I'm pretty sure the seller said the bar was in Alameda..(will confirm next time I see him)...lots of speculation when where etc...like I said, wore me out, I don't know much about autographs but a dated autograph would have to be more interesting...So if it's real...how and where it was signed 23 days after the fight is a very interesting question..The frame and it's construction are c1910....the glass isn't as wavy as I thought initially...it's only a little wavy....so probably replaced at some point....probably got broke that time Wyatt Earp and Johnny Ringo were horsing around...

[canjond]

I'm not a Dempsey expert by far (never owned one), but I always believed the line above the signature was a Dempsey trademark. Also, the "D" in Dempsey looks pretty good to me (from the examples I've seen). The "J" may be a little off though.

Let's wait for Adam to chime in - I'm sure he's familiar with the signatures.

[jcking2722]

I just picked up a 1934 Rockola World's Series Pinball Machine that I have been working on getting for some time. Actually my wife, God bless her, bought it from a friend of mine for me for my birthday! It is in working order and while it definitely does show its age a little, everything on it is original with original paint except for the reproduction legs and lock box which are unpainted. Costs a nickel for 3 outs and the coin op mechanism works too. I love having it in my baseball room and my 4 year-old daughter cannot get enough of it! I think I might actually love the fact that she loves it more than I even love the item itself. Thanks for letting me share.

Josh

[sayhey24]

Great pickup on that machine Josh -- I've always liked that one and it's a manageable size. Of course the fact that your daughter is enjoying it makes it priceless!


Greg