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Old 01-25-2017, 07:50 PM
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Default Who was Ty Cobb? The History we Know That's Wrong. Very Interesting Read

I had a friend let me read his copy of this about Ty Cobb, very interesting read that really puts Cobb in a different light:

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/who-w...w-thats-wrong/

Thought this would be a great place to post, I really wonder why we have not heard more about it.

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Cool article. Thanks for posting it.

Edited to add.....Awesome card Pete!

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Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
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He wrote a book that goes into the details of his research and altered view of Cobb. A really good read.

http://a.co/a6BlZrB

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Interesting article. Definitely makes me rethink much of what I thought were established facts about him.
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Thanks for sharing!

Some of this sentiment about Cobb is also portrayed in little snippets by his former teammates and opponents in "The Glory of Their Times" by Ritter. People, like Cobb, who are generally aloof are often misunderstood by others.

I'm surprised that an autobiography could be published without allowing the subject (or his family) the chance to read it beforehand. What Al Stump did to tarnish Cobb's reputation posthumously is despicable.
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Thanks for sharing!

Some of this sentiment about Cobb is also portrayed in little snippets by his former teammates and opponents in "The Glory of Their Times" by Ritter. People, like Cobb, who are generally aloof are often misunderstood by others.

I'm surprised that an autobiography could be published without allowing the subject (or his family) the chance to read it beforehand. What Al Stump did to tarnish Cobb's reputation posthumously is despicable.
Not only did Stump tarnish Cobb's reputation, but he also introduced fake memorabilia into our hobby.
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Conventional wisdom has it that Ty Cobb was a violent psycho, the most hated man in baseball. I read Leerhsen's book year last year. Came away with a much better opinion of Cobb. SABR thought it was a pretty good read too. They conferred upon it their Larry Ritter Award for best book related to the Deadball Era.

http://sabr.org/latest/charles-leerh...y-ritter-award

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While I haven't read Leerhsen's book yet, I have read "War on the Basepaths" by Hornbaker twice. Ty Cobb in no way is perfect but is the most deserving of all for a complete revision of his legacy. He is a very very complicated man and deserving of further research.
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Informative article.

Any ideas from anyone what the 'Chicago' slide was?
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Stump was pretty much the worst. He had no integrity and (as stated) he even forged items and passed them off to those in the hobby. Anything written by Stump should be completely disregarded.

The contemporary accounts of Cobb truly paint a different picture of a much more complicated man that certainly had his faults but not nearly the monster we had been led to believe.
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Stump was pretty much the worst. He had no integrity and (as stated) he even forged items and passed them off to those in the hobby. Anything written by Stump should be completely disregarded.

The contemporary accounts of Cobb truly paint a different picture of a much more complicated man that certainly had his faults but not nearly the monster we had been led to believe.
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stump was pretty much the worst. He had no integrity and (as stated) he even forged items and passed them off to those in the hobby. Anything written by stump should be completely disregarded.

The contemporary accounts of cobb truly paint a different picture of a much more complicated man that certainly had his faults but not nearly the monster we had been led to believe.
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There aren't any Cobb haters in Royston. I've been there and spoke with some old-timers who knew him.
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