Brown Lenox On Ebay

[Pat R]

Was in a lot with four other cards with no mention of the Lenox back.
The listing was a four day auction with a $1.99 starting bid with no BIN.
disappeared in a couple of minutes and was sold as a BIN for $500.

Manning Brown Lenox.jpg

[Leon]

That was a nice pick up..

[mrvster]

[njdunkin1]

Gee whiz, someone's happy. Congrats to the buyer, excellent eye :]

[Gradedcardman]

I saw it as well, but out of respect for the buyer and seller I was going to wait a week before making an inquiry on the board. I hope the sale gets done and is a smooth transaction.

[asoriano]

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman

I saw it as well, but out of respect for the buyer and seller I was going to wait a week before making an inquiry on the board. I hope the sale gets done and is a smooth transaction.

+1

Still some steals to be had on eBay.

[irv]

What is that Lennox card really worth?

[BleedinBlue]

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman

I saw it as well, but out of respect for the buyer and seller I was going to wait a week before making an inquiry on the board. I hope the sale gets done and is a smooth transaction.

My Lenox purchase was interrupted by a board member who then bought the card from the seller.

[Scocs]

You mean you're not the buyer who offered $500 for them?

[Gradedcardman]

Last one I bought was in LOTG and it was not inexpensive. The last one I will more than likely purchase.

[Republicaninmass]

All's fair on ebay

[slidekellyslide]

Do you guys ever worry that the interest wanes for such an insignificant variation as the ink color on the back of the card?

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by asoriano

+1

Still some steals to be had on eBay.

+1

This was listed incorrectly on Ebay last week for BIN $2

[swarmee]

I saw the New York Mascot Old Judge pop up last week for auction at $10 and immediately messaged the seller to let the auction run to close. She was happy since it sold for about $550.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I saw the New York Mascot Old Judge pop up last week for auction at $10 and immediately messaged the seller to let the auction run to close. She was happy since it sold for about $550.

Let me guess, you didnt win it?

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Scocs

You mean you're not the buyer who offered $500 for them?

I am also curious. Are you referring to this particular card or a previous card simply saying that it has happened to you.

Additionally curious to know how you know it is someone on here?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Let me guess, you didnt win it?

I bid it to $50 and let it go after that; I don't collect that set. Just didn't want to see the seller get fleeced.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I bid it to $50 and let it go after that; I don't collect that set. Just didn't want to see the seller get fleeced.

In my book that worse than "fleecing" a greddy seller who ends their own AUCTION, on their own accord, to take a quick buck.

IMO You just couldn't bear to see someone getting a deal, you couldnt have cared less about the seller or you would have bid a bit higher than 50$ on a 500$ card.

[swarmee]

Yeah, that's the same thing. I put in a $50 bid immediately so the seller knew there was interest in the item; I had no expectation or plan to win it. You're a peach.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by BleedinBlue

My Lenox purchase was interrupted by a board member who then bought the card from the seller.

I remember that incident. It was a couple years ago. Sorry, I can't find that thread.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Yeah, that's the same thing. I put in a $50 bid immediately so the seller knew there was interest in the item; I had no expectation or plan to win it. You're a peach.

Im certainly glad we have the junior police of ebay patrolling for corrupt buyers on ebay. Rest well sellers!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Sean

I remember that incident. It was a couple years ago. Sorry, I can't find that thread.

This happens all the time. As far has knowing who done it, a lot of time you can just ask the seller and they will tell you who they sold it to. Plus on a lot of cards there really is just a few people that are buyers and if you are a buyer more than likely you know the other buyers.

Back when I sold a lot of rare error cards on eBay. I got a ton of those will you cancel the auction and sell it to me messages. I always answered no I will not cancel the auction. It was very rare that one of those people actually bid on the item. Most of the time they were just people trying to get a card for much less than it was worth.

[Bored5000]

I wrote this on here before in the thread about vintage racing cards, but I picked up the rare Fred Lorenzen card in my avatar at auction on eBay last September. The card and another Lorenzen card from the same seller sold for a little over $1,800 at auction. From messaging the seller after the auction to confirm payment information, the seller said he knew he had something special when multiple people messaged him with offers of $300, $400 and $750 for the two cards if he would end the auction.

Rationalize it any way possible, it still seems scummy to me to try and get a seller to end an auction for pennies on the dollar.

Edd*e Sm*th

[Scocs]

"Rationalize it any way possible, it still seems scummy to me to try and get a seller to end an auction for pennies on the dollar."

+ infinity

[Jantz]

Well if I learned anything today its that I'm not scummy.

The T205 I posted earlier was purchased by someone else. I could have nabbed it for $2, but I let nature take it's course.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Scocs

"Rationalize it any way possible, it still seems scummy to me to try and get a seller to end an auction for pennies on the dollar."

+ infinity

Newsflash...this is a scummy hobby!

[bobbyw8469]

No offense, but that looks black to me, not brown. That's why i like staying away from the "subtle variation" game.

[Republicaninmass]

Serves the buyer right. Take a gamble, absorb the loss. Not like others asking sellers to add ridiculously low Buy it now prices...so they can then return if it's it no good.

[Gradedcardman]

Doubt there's a loss for this buyer regardless of the color it's determined to be. $500 is a great price for a Black example and a awesome price for a Brown. No loss either way with this group.

[Vintagecatcher]

This hobby is a microcosm of the rest of society.

While it is certainly true that there is no shortage of unsavory people doing unethical acts, there is also many good people that do the "right thing," and also help their fellow collectors.

Some people have no problem contacting sellers to end auctions early...some people would rather let auctions run their normal course.

One would hope that there are ethical people at both ends of the transaction.

Some people have no problem contacting a seller after an auction has ended, and making a deal to acquire an item that they desire. Some people would believe this is case of an unethical seller, and an unethical backdoor buyer.

It happens...but it doesn't mean it's right.

Patrick

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

no offense, but that looks black to me, not brown. That's why i like staying away from the "subtle variation" game.

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Manning Brown Lenox - Copy.jpg

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

That's why i like staying away from the "subtle variation" game.

I agree with this ^^^^ If you aren't educated or savvy about being able to tell the different between a Brown and Black Lennox, you should stay away.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Serves the buyer right. Take a gamble, absorb the loss. Not like others asking sellers to add ridiculously low Buy it now prices...so they can then return if it's it no good.

As grown men that accept responsibility for our actions we don't get that the world has changed. A grown man can still act like a little kid because nothing is their fault.

As far as the brown vs black, they are kinda hard to tell the difference with a picture on the internet. In hand in a well lit room or especially outside in the sunlight they stick out like a sore thumb. I am going through this with a gentleman right now. He accidentally sent me 2 brown backs so I returned them. Then he was going to send me another card for my troubles and when it arrived it was a brown back also. So now I am going to return it.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Someone accidentally sent you 3 Brown Lenox cards?

[Gradedcardman]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

This hobby is a microcosm of the rest of society.

While it is certainly true that there is no shortage of unsavory people doing unethical acts, there is also many good people that do the "right thing," and also help their fellow collectors.

Some people have no problem contacting sellers to end auctions early...some people would rather let auctions run their normal course.

One would hope that there are ethical people at both ends of the transaction.

Some people have no problem contacting a seller after an auction has ended, and making a deal to acquire an item that they desire. Some people would believe this is case of an unethical seller, and an unethical backdoor buyer.

It happens...but it doesn't mean it's right.

Patrick

Well said

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Someone accidentally sent you 3 Brown Lenox cards?

No a different card but with the same problem and the brown backs being insanely rare.

[DerekMichael]

It looks to be genuine brown, no?

[mrvster]

is disturbing....everything on this earth is just that......earthly......we are only "renting" these pieces of cardboard....you can't take it with you...

money, sometimes "big" money comes out, then greed takes over, an ugly demon....it distorts us sometimes...

I try to be ethical all the time in this hobby, but I have let greed take me sometimes....

we need to learn from our mistakes and love one anther...

ok, let the bashing begin