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Old 02-13-2014, 11:59 AM
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Default Federal Indictment- card scammers who tried relentlessly to register on Net54baseball

Federal Indictment for card scammers who tried relentlessly to register on Net54baseball

I had an argument with this guys supposed mom last week, on a phone call.


http://www.cleveland.com/court-justi...l#incart_river



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They're 38 and 40 and you were talking to their mom?
Glad they seem to have been caught.
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They're 38 and 40 and you were talking to their mom?
Glad they seem to have been caught.
She said she was his mom and I didn't believe one thing she said. It was weird. But when I look in the registration database I find Scott Norris tried to get registered here no less than 3x, same IP and all. I am in the process of contacting the US Asst. Attorney handling the case to see if there is any help I can provide.
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You have to marvel at the gall.
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Great job Leon screening these people out.

It looks like some people on eBay weren't so lucky since according to the article this had been going on from 2006-2012. What a shame.
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Seems they are getting what they deserve....here are a few attempts ya'll might even remember...




From: Scott Norris [mailto:shoeboxlegends@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 2:14 PM
To: leon@net54baseball.com
Subject: Net54

Hello Leon, Im responding to your link regarding signing up to net54 forum. My user id is shoeboxlegends, my name is Scott Norris, and my telephone number is 1-216-931-xxxx. Hope you'll allow me to join your forum and learn more about the hobby I love so much. Thanks again, Scott
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scot Norris [mailto:t206baseballcards@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:51 AM
To: leon@net54baseball.com
Subject: net54 membership

Hello Leon, I hope you find it fitting for me to become a member of the forum. My net 54 user id is t206whiteborders, my name is Scott Allen and my telephone number is 1-216-355-xxxx. I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks again, Scott



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Thanks, Leon for keeping 54 as safe as possible. Mahalo, Dave
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Here's the original thread where Leon banned these thieves: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1222720

Good to see a little justice in this crazy hobby.
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Not delivering a product does really help the margins, though.
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Once they retain a lawyer, it will be a misunderstanding or someone else's fault.
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Once they retain a lawyer, it will be a misunderstanding or someone else's fault.
Obfuscation Peter. An atty friend of mine told me, I'm in the obfuscation business.
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Obfuscation Peter. An atty friend of mine told me, I'm in the obfuscation business.
That would be a step up for many.
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Leon...if you need to talk to my mom...pls let me know!
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Is she hot?
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I'd like to have a long talk with a lot of youse guys moms!
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Should have already been in prison for life for his sex offender status.
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It was a joke .....however.....nah.....
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Hey now, Christie Brinkley is 60 and looks 40.....just sayin.
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You still didn't answer the question.
Alas, I don't need to talk to anyone's mom.

However, back to these scammers. According to the previous thread it looks like I got a call from the guy's "dad", though it now sounds like it could have been his brother? I left a voice mail message for the Secret Service agent in charge of that investigation to offer any help I can. I hope justice is fair but harsh for them. I don't think, generally speaking, people get busted the very first time they commit a crime. And I know I had some hassles with these guys (supposing the bros. were in on everything together) so am not sympathetic.
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So they currently have federal charges being brought upon them (the article is from this month), the secret service is investigating them as we speak, yet they STILL are trying to get on here to pull more scams learn about the hobby. Wow.

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I got a message today on Ebay from *shoeboxlegends* (0) asking me the size of the Honus Wagner on this Trader Speaks. They asked about another one too.
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There are members of this board who have been convicted of similar scams...
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Who are those people on the board?

I'm glad this guy finally got what he had coming to him. Now he will find out what it feels like to be raped.

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Doesn't sound like you answered the question .....


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"Convicted" huh?......pretty strong accusations.....
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Completely off topic, but I enjoyed the random Babe Ruth stamp and caption that has nothing to do with the article.
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"Convicted" huh?......pretty strong accusations.....
Shelly was convicted a long time ago. He has aided authorities for many years since then in order to help the hobby. Are there others?
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So, Raquel Welch is 73!

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Sophia Loren is 80. What happed to d p johnson....a hit and run?
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IMHO, everyone deserves a second chance. Let he among us...

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IMHO, everyone deserves a second chance. Let he among us...

Best wishes,

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Of course I am living on a second chance from 25ish years ago so my comment was in support of Shelly....just in case anyone didn't take it that way.
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You guys! My mom is attractive...maybe she was kinda hot 50 yrs ago...but she's no raquel welch!!!1
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I'm here...I was just stating a fact; not casting judgment. Everyone makes mistakes. Perhaps in a few years the Norris brothers will become reformed scammers and be able to help the community...
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Why does someone feel the need to drag other people into something?


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Be prepared to pack your bags Leon. I got to enjoy an all expense paid overnight trip to Pittsburgh one winter under similar conditions. Feds flew me back there to help convict an ebay scammer on mail fraud charges. The guy proceeded to spend eight years in federal prison and during that time used the prison library to learn how to file literally thousands of lawsuits, one of which was against yours truly as well as all the other witnesses, as well as Obama, every corrections officer he came in contact with, the US congress, the prison food suppliers, multiple lawyers and federal prosecutors and.....on and on.

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