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Old 03-07-2009, 04:37 PM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

This one has some odd stuff...

7 HOFers

3 cards across the top. Middle card sits atop a check signed by the HOFer on the card.

4 cards in the second row, 2 HOFers, and that last card has the best card back I've ever read. Sold one of these cards to Bruce a few years ago.

Third row has 5 items... first is a boxing strip, one of the 5 boxers has strong ties to baseball. Who is he? That orange thing is one of my favorites, although of nominal value. The fellow played in the 1934 World Series, but he's hardly on any cards.

Forth row, at the bottom... who are they??? On the left is a member of the Hall, next is a seldom depicted catcher who played in the World Series, then 2 4in1's from what year? The guy on the orange thing is on one of them, and a player who is difficult to locate on any contemporary card is at bottom right, who is he??

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Old 03-07-2009, 04:55 PM
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Posted By: Steve Dawson

#2 - 1961 Union Oil Gaylord Perry
#6 - 1955 Red Man Pee Wee Reese
#12 - 1954 New York Journal American Wes Westrum


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Old 03-07-2009, 04:56 PM
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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Recognize the Red Man Reese. Is the guy on the bottom right, Len Koenecke?

Second from the left, on the bottom - Pat Collins?


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Old 03-07-2009, 05:01 PM
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

Looks like a Diamond Matchbooks Dizzy Dean and a NY Journal-American Wes Westrum.

The rest have me stumped, at least in terms of player AND issue...

-Al

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

#4 is a 1921 Exhibit Grover Cleveland Alexander

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:13 PM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

You guys must have had razor soup for lunch, pretty sharp!!!

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2) ****Steve D HOFer Gaylord Perry's first card, good eyes.
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4) ****Dan B, Alexander with that nice image on the 1921 Exhibit.
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6) ****Steve D ****Steve D Peewee Reese on the last series of T cards.
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9) ***** good one, Al... Dizzy Dean, Diamond Matchbook.
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12) ******Steve D New York Journal, Wes Westrum I thought he'd be tough.
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14) *****Yankees catcher Pat Collins. I have a Pat Collins mitt. 1926.
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16) ******** for Bob P... Len Koenecke. What a story on him. One fine ballplayer. Lord knows what happened on that airplane. Great, Bob.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

#3 is a 1922 Eastern Exhibit Supply Harry Heilmann

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:19 PM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hints...


1- PCL


player on #10 is also on #15

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:20 PM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Right you are, Dan, about Heilmann.

That's the only Eastern Exhibit I have. Thought it looked really odd when I got it, I was expecting a normal Exhibit.

Good eye!!!

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:28 PM
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Posted By: Steve Dawson

The player on the top-left of the left-side 4-in-1 looks like Pepper Martin. Frank Frisch is next to him.





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Old 03-07-2009, 05:29 PM
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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Thanks, Frank. Now, the fact that I've never had a naked maid, doesn't bother me quite so much.

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Koenecke.Len.Obit.html

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

1)
2) ****Steve D HOFer Gaylord Perry's first card, good eyes.
3) *****Dan B, Heilmann Eastern Exhibit
4) ****Dan B, Alexander with that nice image on the 1921 Exhibit.
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6) ****Steve D ****Steve D Peewee Reese on the last series of T cards.
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9) ***** good one, Al... Dizzy Dean, Diamond Matchbook.
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12) ******Steve D New York Journal, Wes Westrum I thought he'd be tough.
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14) *****Yankees catcher Pat Collins. I have a Pat Collins mitt. 1926.
15) for Steve for Martin and Frisch, 2 more players??? What's the card?
16) ******** for Bob P... Len Koenecke. What a story on him. One fine ballplayer. Lord knows what happened on that airplane. Great, Bob.


We need...
1) PCL...
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7) if you guys get the card type, I'll give you the player, initials DR
8) who's the boxer on there with dirty ties to baseball?
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13) HOF member, and no one knows... sad.
15) Steve has half of the 4 players, who're the other 2, and the year??

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Posted By: fkw

Some not answered yet...


Top left is either a '45 or '47 Centenial Flour card, dont know the player.

Second card in second row is a 1929-30 R315A Bob Shawkey

Last card second row looks like a 1961 Union Oil (lefty pitcher/Seattle??)

The Diamond Matchbooks are called 1934 U1 Silver Border.... the last one is umpire Albert Dolly Stark ???

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:49 PM
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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

" the boxer on there with dirty ties to baseball'

Gotta be Abe "The Little Champ" Attell!

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Posted By: Steve Dawson

OK, my guess is that the boxer on the left end of the strip is Abe Attell.


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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

fkw has arrived, the pups have gotten back up on the porch, the big dogs are here!!

Great, Frank.

1)********fkw for recognizing Centennial Flour, that's York of Seattle. He was up with the Cubs for 28 games in 1944.
2) ****Steve D HOFer Gaylord Perry's first card, good eyes.
3) *****Dan B, Heilmann Eastern Exhibit
4) ****Dan B, Alexander with that nice image on the 1921 Exhibit.
5) *******fkw R315A Bob Shawkey
6) ****Steve D ****Steve D Peewee Reese on the last series of T cards.
7) *****!!!***fkw Union Oil it is, and a Seattle Rainier, Don Rudolph. See the back of his card, below!!!
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9) ***** good one, Al... Dizzy Dean, Diamond Matchbook.
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11) *******fkw nails the Diamond Matchbook of umpire Dolly Stark!!!
12) ******Steve D New York Journal, Wes Westrum I thought he'd be tough.
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14) *****Yankees catcher Pat Collins. I have a Pat Collins mitt. 1926.
15) for Steve for Martin and Frisch, 2 more players??? What's the card?
16) ******** for Bob P... Len Koenecke. What a story on him. One fine ballplayer. Lord knows what happened on that airplane. Great, Bob.


That really leaves:

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and about half of 15)


And this is only posted because by now the kids have gone to bed...
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:58 PM
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

1) 1947 Centennial Flour (?? player)

2) 1961 Union Oil Gaylord Perry w/ Perry signed check

3) Eastern Exhibit Harry Heilmann

4) 1921 Exhibits G. C. Alexander

5) R315 Bob Shawkey

6) 1955 Red Man Pee-Wee Reese w/ tab

7) 1960 Union Oil (?? Player)

8) W580 Boxing strip of 5 (probably was a strip of 10 initially)

9) 1934 Diamond Matchbooks (Silver) Dizzy Dean

10) 1934 Diamond Matchbooks (Silver)

11) 1934 Diamond Matchbooks (Silver) Dolly Stark (umpire)

12) 1954 NY Journal American Wes Westrum

13) 1927 Exhibits Billy Southworth

14) 1928 Exhibits Pat Collins

15) 1934 Exhibits 4-on-1 Frankie Frish (sliding) w/ Pepper Martin, Bill Hallahan, & John Rothrock

16) 1934 "" "" Al Lopez w/ Koenicke, Leslie, and Glenn Wright

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

hard to tell if #10 is Rothrock or Hallahan from the scan

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Posted By: Michael Steele

Nice job Rhett.

I figured the 4 in 1 exhibits were 34's or 35's. I wish I had a few.

1934 W563-4

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Good list, Rhett,

Here's where we are:

1)********fkw for recognizing Centennial Flour, that's York of Seattle. He was up with the Cubs for 28 games in 1944.
2) ****Steve D HOFer Gaylord Perry's first card, good eyes.
3) *****Dan B, Heilmann Eastern Exhibit
4) ****Dan B, Alexander with that nice image on the 1921 Exhibit.
5) *******fkw R315A Bob Shawkey
6) ****Steve D ****Steve D Peewee Reese on the last series of T cards.
7) *****!!!***fkw Union Oil it is, and a Seattle Rainier, Don Rudolph. See the back of his card, below!!!
8) ******Rhett, W580 boxing strip, but who's the boxer with baseball ties?
9) ***** good one, Al... Dizzy Dean, Diamond Matchbook.
10)
11) *******fkw nails the Diamond Matchbook of umpire Dolly Stark!!!
12) ******Steve D New York Journal, Wes Westrum I thought he'd be tough.
13) ******* for Rhett, IDing Billy Southworth on the Exhibit.
14) *****Yankees catcher Pat Collins. I have a Pat Collins mitt. 1926.
15) ***for Steve, & ***** for Rhett for Rothrock and 1934
16) ******** for Bob P... Len Koenecke.


So I think that leaves;;

8) a W580 strip, which boxer on there had 'black' baseball connections?

10) he's on card #15, the 1934 exhibit.


And if anyone can post a better card back than the Union Oil Don Rudolph card, I'd like to see it.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Rothrock it is, Rhett.



I can't post super sharp images, or you'll just zoom in...

So the boxer we're looking for is???

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

I'm pretty sure the middle guy on the W580 strip is Attell, which I believe was already mentioned by someone above
-Rhett

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Rhett, thanks for directing me back up through there, I see that Bob P picked Abe Attell out of the middle of the bunch.

You guys did it!


One last group of 6 cards in a few minutes... gotta stump you!

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