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Old 02-23-2018, 04:11 PM
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What do you do when you see them?

Want to take them off or leave them be? (I've never tried to peel one off.)

Make you nervous about authenticity or full-steam ahead?

Part of the provenance story or shady stigma?
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:25 PM
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What do you do when you see them?

Want to take them off or leave them be? (I've never tried to peel one off.)

Make you nervous about authenticity or full-steam ahead?

Part of the provenance story or shady stigma?
Good questions. My vote is "C".

c) Part of the provenance story or shady stigma?

It is either good or it isn't. He really had no clue what he was doing. Let me rephrase... when he KNEW what he was doing, it is bad. But he put stickers on all good stuff too. I have seen fake stamps on stuff that was good for God's sake.

Again.. it is either good or it isn't. If you send to PSA, they are not going to reject if the sticker is on there and it is good. Also, I would buy it with the sticker on there if I liked and wanted it.
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Good questions. My vote is "C".

c) Part of the provenance story or shady stigma?

It is either good or it isn't. He really had no clue what he was doing. Let me rephrase... when he KNEW what he was doing, it is bad. But he put stickers on all good stuff too. I have seen fake stamps on stuff that was good for God's sake.

Again.. it is either good or it isn't. If you send to PSA, they are not going to reject if the sticker is on there and it is good. Also, I would buy it with the sticker on there if I liked and wanted it.
I also leave the sticker - I figure if it will come off now it will come off later. But maybe I am wrong...

The last negative feedback I got was because of one of those stupid stickers. The buyer tried to remove it and it tore off part of the paper. He then complained to ebay that I put the sticker on it and he wanted to return the print. I said 'No' because of the damage done by the attempted removal.
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To echo what the other good responses have already said, the photo stands alone. Most of the Rogers stuff in the mainstream hobby are fine. (99.9%) probably. He targeted specific individuals with most of his fraud and I am happy to say that a large percentage of that stuff has been identified and removed from the hobby. Very few Rogers fakes are actually circulating around so while the sticker itself is ugly and stupid, I would not assume it has any higher percentage at this point of being fake than your average photo out there. If you ever have any questions, post it on here and the collective knowledge should be able to identify bad vs. good items. Especially if it is a smaller value photo and the price of PSA authentication is more than value of most photos.
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Just ignore the sticker and judge the photo on its own merits. I had a photo with his sticker that was perfectly original.
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To echo what the other good responses have already said, the photo stands alone. Most of the Rogers stuff in the mainstream hobby are fine. (99.9%) probably. He targeted specific individuals with most of his fraud and I am happy to say that a large percentage of that stuff has been identified and removed from the hobby. Very few Rogers fakes are actually circulating around so while the sticker itself is ugly and stupid, I would not assume it has any higher percentage at this point of being fake than your average photo out there. If you ever have any questions, post it on here and the collective knowledge should be able to identify bad vs. good items. Especially if it is a smaller value photo and the price of PSA authentication is more than value of most photos.
What is really weird is Ben and I were discussing a specific example of a fraudulent Rogers print and little did I know but at that moment it was in the mail to my house as part of a miscellaneous photo print lot that had been consigned by a hobbyist currently in prison. I saved the print as a reminder of this part of our hobby's history.
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Sellers and buyers. Scott, you have a story for all occasions. Ugh.

Appreciate everyone's take. The sticker shown is from a legit William C. Greene shot of Branch Rickey that I have. It is just sad to see Rogers' tainted imprimatur stuck on the back.
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