Tickets

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

With respect to tickets, I may be a bit of a contrarian in that I would prefer a stub to a full unused ticket. I have very few tickets, less than a couple of dozen in my collection, but part of the allure for me is the connection to the event. Yes I know the full ones look great slabbed (so some might say) and command more money, but to me an unused ticket is an object without any relevance…

For me, ticket stubs and scorecards provide contextual enhancement to other items in my collection. Probably the best example I can think of is I have a 1940 World Series Game 7 ticket stub, Pouge’s Department Store scorecard (sold outside the gate) and an original team mailing envelope for World Series tickets in a small display with Paul Derringer’s 1940 World Series cap. Does including these other items with the cap change or enhance the value in any appreciable manner? Maybe not, but as group they enhance the visual appeal of the main artifact (Derringer cap) and stimulate thought about the time and place.

Dave Grob

actually if you notice some of the full stubs have holes punched this was done at the turn stiles as a special accommodation of a fans request who wanted the whole ticket as a memento , also complimentary tickets were also so punched and could not be exchanged if there was a rain out
so these tickets in fact would have been presented at day of game and ticket owner would have been present at the game with full ticket in tow

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by megalimey

actually if you notice some of the full stubs have holes punched this was done at the turn stiles as a special accommodation of a fans request who wanted the whole ticket as a memento , also complimentary tickets were also so punched and could not be exchanged if there was a rain out
so these tickets in fact would have been presented at day of game and ticket owner would have been present at the game with full ticket in tow

I could be wrong, but there's certain years of the World Series where no tickets were perforated or "ripped" upon admission, with all tickets hole punched instead. I believe the 1911 Series is an example. What I don't understand, is people calling these "full" tickets. Despite remaining complete, with no section torn away, the hole punch should still classify the ticket as a "stub". Or am I missing something?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

I could be wrong, but there's certain years of the World Series where no tickets were perforated or "ripped" upon admission, with all tickets hole punched instead. I believe the 1911 Series is an example. What I don't understand, is people calling these "full" tickets. Despite remaining complete, with no section torn away, the hole punch should still classify the ticket as a "stub". Or am I missing something?

as long as the ticket is fully intact with both sections raincheck untorn it is regarded as a full ticket and not a stub
it is not unusual to see some full tickets whole punched which was done to
accommodate a fans wishes or given as a complimentary no cash value , the holes prevented reentry or resale in the event of a rain out , so very few people did this

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by megalimey

as long as the ticket is fully intact with both sections raincheck untorn it is regarded as a full ticket and not a stub
it is not unusual to see some full tickets whole punched which was done to
accommodate a fans wishes or given as a complimentary no cash value , the holes prevented reentry or resale in the event of a rain out , so very few people did this

I'd classify a ticket that's punched and has no section torn off as "full" and therefore not a stub but I'd additionally classify it as "used." So a full or complete, unused ticket would be different than a full or complete ticket that we know was used because it was hole punched.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by icollectDCsports

I'd classify a ticket that's punched and has no section torn off as "full" and therefore not a stub but I'd additionally classify it as "used." So a full or complete, unused ticket would be different than a full or complete ticket that we know was used because it was hole punched.

your correct it would be classed as a used full ticket verses one that was found at some ones house who never went to the game IE: "no show" BUT INCLUDED in the paid attendance

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by megalimey

your correct it would be classed as a used full ticket verses one that was found at some ones house who never went to the game IE: "no show" BUT INCLUDED in the paid attendance

Yes but full tickets that have neither been torn nor punched nor marked MAY also never have been sold and therefore never in the hands of fans. Alternatively, I know that some untorn tickets were in the pockets of some people at games because they were let into the stadium via nonpublic entrances. I can think of some nice, complete, and vintage WS tickets that exist in this state because a particular player's family never had their tickets taken. So, we don't always know the circumstances of such tickets.

In any event, I think complete and unused tickets do have a special place in collecting, even if they likely weren't present at games. I consider them souvenirs of a team, whereas used tickets are souvenirs of the game.

[Scott Garner]

As a long-time ticket collector, I actually see a good argument for collecting both stubs and full tickets. I know other ticket collectors that share my opinion on this as well based on many conversations through the years.

Finding either a stub OR a full ticket to a historic event is an extremely challenging task, literally like finding a needle in a haystack...

With vintage tickets, a stub was at the game, but a full ticket is usually the much rarer brother of the stub and can be an extremely challenging find for sure. One reason that ticket collectors like full tickets is that you gain more information that can sometimes be lost when a ticket is torn into a stub. Some examples include, year of the ticket, opposing team, Team President, font, sponsor info. Without full tickets dating stubs could be a genuine challenge to nail down as a collector. At the end of the day, ANY ticket that can be tied with certainty to an event of historic nature has absolute value to a collector, FWIW.

With my no-hit ticket collection, I actually collect both stubs and full tickets. If I find a stub to the game, I am always on the hunt for a full ticket as an upgrade because of the challenge associated with "the hunt".

The great thing about collecting in general is that there are many ways of doing it. There is no right or wrong answer.