Not the only Hall of Fame getting Watered Down

[KingFisk]

Roxy Music is one of my top 5 bands of all time. Where Brian Eno cut his teeth, and they had a string of four or five flawless albums in the 70s. They've deserved induction for a long time.

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[Klrdds]

I agree the RRHOF is getting watered down . I can never recall when their class had less than 5 inductees. After awhile you'll get watered down doing that because there can only be so many worthy people to induct until you start inducting peripheral artists and associated groups, singers , etc...

[Orioles1954]

Any Hall of Fame without The Smiths is not worthy to stand.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Roxy Music is one of my top 5 bands of all time. Where Brian Eno cut his teeth, and they had a string of four or five flawless albums in the 70s. They've deserved induction for a long time.

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In 2005, Tim de Lisle of The Guardian argued that Roxy Music are the second most influential British band after the Beatles. He wrote, "Somehow, in a landscape dominated by Led Zeppelin at one end and the Osmonds at the other, they managed to reach the Top 10 with a heady mixture of futurism, retro rock'n'roll, camp, funny noises, silly outfits, art techniques, film references and oboe solos. And although their popularity has ebbed and flowed, their influence has been strikingly consistent."[9]

Madness are among the artists that have cited Roxy Music as an influence.[47] They paid tribute to Bryan Ferry in the song "4BF" (the title is a reference to the song "2HB", itself a tribute to Humphrey Bogart from the first Roxy Music album).

In 1997, John Taylor of Duran Duran produced the tribute album Dream Home Heartaches... Remaking/Remodeling Roxy Music. The compilation features Taylor as well as Dave Gahan (Depeche Mode) and Low Pop Suicide, among others.

The earliest incarnation of the band that would eventually become Sex Pistols was called The Strand, after "Do The Strand", the opening song from Roxy Music's second album, For Your Pleasure.

The electronic band Ladytron took their name from the title of a song from Roxy Music's debut album.[48]

An antagonist character in the videogame Final Fight named Roxy (a female acrobatic fighter) is named after the band, as well as other enemy characters in the game that pay homage to someone or something related to music, like her identical partner Poison.

These are just some of the credits and influences Roxy Music had on the music world. They are a European band more than anything else, and therefore not always as well known or recognized in the U.S. Roxy Music deserves to be in the RRHOF for their album covers alone!!!!!!!

Now if the Rock Hall could only get their you-know-what together and look at Hawkwind also, then you'd get some more respect!

[rats60]

Originally Posted by BobC

In 2005, Tim de Lisle of The Guardian argued that Roxy Music are the second most influential British band after the Beatles. He wrote, "Somehow, in a landscape dominated by Led Zeppelin at one end and the Osmonds at the other, they managed to reach the Top 10 with a heady mixture of futurism, retro rock'n'roll, camp, funny noises, silly outfits, art techniques, film references and oboe solos. And although their popularity has ebbed and flowed, their influence has been strikingly consistent."[9]

Madness are among the artists that have cited Roxy Music as an influence.[47] They paid tribute to Bryan Ferry in the song "4BF" (the title is a reference to the song "2HB", itself a tribute to Humphrey Bogart from the first Roxy Music album).

In 1997, John Taylor of Duran Duran produced the tribute album Dream Home Heartaches... Remaking/Remodeling Roxy Music. The compilation features Taylor as well as Dave Gahan (Depeche Mode) and Low Pop Suicide, among others.

The earliest incarnation of the band that would eventually become Sex Pistols was called The Strand, after "Do The Strand", the opening song from Roxy Music's second album, For Your Pleasure.

The electronic band Ladytron took their name from the title of a song from Roxy Music's debut album.[48]

An antagonist character in the videogame Final Fight named Roxy (a female acrobatic fighter) is named after the band, as well as other enemy characters in the game that pay homage to someone or something related to music, like her identical partner Poison.

These are just some of the credits and influences Roxy Music had on the music world. They are a European band more than anything else, and therefore not always as well known or recognized in the U.S. Roxy Music deserves to be in the RRHOF for their album covers alone!!!!!!!

Now if the Rock Hall could only get their you-know-what together and look at Hawkwind also, then you'd get some more respect!

And you didn't even mention Brian Eno and his influence on David Bowie, Talking Heads and U2's music among many others.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by rats60

And you didn't even mention Brian Eno and his influence on David Bowie, Talking Heads and U2's music among many others.

Shouldn't have to, but you're right. Used to stay up late nights and listen to songs of theirs here in Cleveland on the then progressive FM station WMMS, long before they ever made it big. And again, just check out the album covers!!!!!

[JollyElm]

One of my best ever "random music pickups" (as I like to call them) was grabbing Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music “Street Life” 20 Greatest Hits in a discount bin in the 90's. Like everyone else, I knew the hits from the "Avalon" album and a couple of other things, but songs like "Oh Yeah (On The Radio)" and "Over You" were new to me and jumped right out.

(For anybody who cares, two others great random pickups were Alice in Chains "Nothing Safe: Best Of The Box" and The Alarm's EP "Electric Folklore Live.")

[Fred]

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Roxy Music is one of my top 5 bands of all time. Where Brian Eno cut his teeth, and they had a string of four or five flawless albums in the 70s. They've deserved induction for a long time.

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Not one of my top 5, but I think they should be in. Don't forget about Bryan Ferry.

It's really not a R&R HOF. It's a MUSIC HOF. R&R, R&B, c-RAP, etc are all genres represented.

For those of you waiting for the Todd Rundgrens and Pat Benetars (and others) to be enshrined, perhaps you'll have to wait for the RRHOF Veterans Committee to meet and give them their due entry.

What about Tit Wrench...

[Bram99]

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?


http://mascothalloffame.com

[tjb1952tjb]

Originally Posted by Bram99

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?


http://mascothalloffame.com

The San Diego Chicken..............

[Baseball Rarities]

The Cure and Roxy Music are both very deserving IMHO. I agree that it has become more of a Pop Music HOF than and RnR HOF though.

[doug.goodman]

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

And Bon Jovi? Ugh.

And fucking Radiohead? Seriously?

[insidethewrapper]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the "Guess Who" and "Tommy James" are in the Hall of Fame and they had several hits.

Slim Whitman must be in the Hall of Fame, the advertisements stated he sold more records than The Beatles.

[silvor]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

Hysteria. That album was HUGE. I believe that tour they played 2 nights in pretty much every city.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

And Bon Jovi? Ugh.

And fucking Radiohead? Seriously?

You can insult my mom, or my kids, or my wife, and no hard feelings, but don't you ever talk about Radiohead that way. You've just made a moderately powerful enemy.

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by Bram99

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?

http://mascothalloffame.com

So, does Charlie the Tuna qualify as a Mascot - if so, he’s definately in. Or is
he more of a spokesfish?

[drcy]

I'm a Cure fan, but, to be honest, it makes no difference to me if they are in a Hall or not. They were an alternative band. Being elected members of a Hall of Fame would be totally against what was the intent and philosophy of an anti-establishment band like the Sex Pistols. And if you've ever heard an interview of Robert Smith, you'd know he'd be the first to scoff at the idea of being elected to a music Hall of Fame. You should hear what he said about the British Royalty and Royal titles when someone asked if he would ever be knighted.

But, if there is a deserving band, Roxy Music would be one. I'm surprised there's a debate about that and was surprised to learn they weren't already elected.

But, to each his own, and, as they say, art is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I see the merits of a Rock and Roll museum, but an elected Rock and Roll "Hall of Fame" always seemed like a dumb idea on its very face to me. No doubt it was concocted at least in part to make money (sell tickets). Thus, whether or not my favorite bands are members of a dumb idea makes no difference to me. In fact, if I had to choose, I'd prefer they not be members.

But yes, I also saw the point (and humor) of the initial post that the first wave included bands such as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Elvis Presley, and now its The Cure and Def Leppard. Whether or not I am a fan of The Cure and Roxy Music, I won't argue that it appears that they running low on bands. It may become a common running joke after a few more elections. Someone in Cleveland may be trying to figure out how they can elect The Beatles and Elvis a second time.

One problem with many Halls of Fame, including MLB and Rock and Roll, is they feel compelled to elect someone each year no matter what. But they won't do that because the inductions are money making events. It would of course be refreshing if the Baseball or Rock HOF, or Nobel Prize committee, would occasionally say "Sorry, no one deserving this year." But the Cleveland and Cooperstown Chamber of Commerce wouldn't like that. After retirement, Mickey Mantle said he became wary of awards because he deduced that most of them were attempts to get him to attend their dinner or event.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by drcy

i'm a cure fan, but, to be honest, it makes no difference to me if they are in a hall or not. They were an alternative band. Being elected members of a hall of fame would be totally against what was the intent and philosophy of an anti-establishment band like the sex pistols. And if you've ever heard an interview of robert smith, you'd know he'd be the first to scoff at the idea of being elected to a music hall of fame. You should hear what he said about the british royalty and royal titles when someone asked if he would ever be knighted.

But, if there is a deserving band, roxy music would be one. I'm surprised there's a debate about that and was surprised to learn they weren't already elected.

But, to each his own, and, as they say, art is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, i see the merits of a rock and roll museum, but an elected rock and roll "hall of fame" always seemed like a dumb idea on its very face to me. No doubt it was concocted at least in part to make money (sell tickets). Thus, whether or not my favorite bands are members of a dumb idea makes no difference to me. In fact, if i had to choose, i'd prefer they not be members.

One problem with many halls of fame, including mlb and rock and roll, is the feel compelled (= $$$) to elect someone each year no matter what. Of course it would be refreshing if the baseball hall of fame or nobel prize would say "sorry, no one deserving this year."

but yes, i also saw the point (and humor) of the initial post that the first wave included bands such as the beatles, the rolling stones and elvis presley, and now its the cure and def leppard.

+1,000,000

[Chris Counts]

I'd take the Cure over Harold Baines.

[ajquigs]

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Roxy Music is one of my top 5 bands of all time. Where Brian Eno cut his teeth, and they had a string of four or five flawless albums in the 70s. They've deserved induction for a long time.

Indeed.
The R&R HOF is a joke. Roxy Music ... not so much.
To me, it's a pretty decent museum. Even it doesn't seem to take the physical "Hall" seriously.