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Old 05-23-2017, 06:45 PM
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I realize it's not completely rational, but when I make a decent opening offer on an expensive item and someone takes more than a day to respond, I assume there is some game playing going on. And I immediately am inclined not to do a deal. If you list a pretty valuable item, and really want to sell it, I'm guessing you don't need 35 hours to respond. There is a part of me that realizes a work crisis could intervene or you could be dealing with a family situation that's more important than a baseball card sale, but I just can't help it. I feel like you are playing games. And I don't care that eBay gives you twice as long to respond. As I just being an ass?
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That annoys me, too. I would guess it is a negotiation strategy. Doesn't mean it works. However, I would interpret a fast response with a lower price to signal an interest in going further down in price.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:02 PM
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Very few of us have cards that others don't. If you want to sell something don't yank my chain. Chances are someone else is selling the same card in the same condition or will be shortly.
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I agree with your point, though know that some dealers wait to see if someone else is going to make an offer.
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I agree with your point, though know that some dealers wait to see if someone else is going to make an offer.
Nothing wrong with that, as a seller one has no obligation to sell the card to the first person who asks.
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Very few of us have cards that others don't. If you want to sell something don't yank my chain. Chances are someone else is selling the same card in the same condition or will be shortly.
Or just maybe the person selling the card does not do it for a living and is not logged into eBay 24/7.

I know I sometime sell on eBay and only check stuff every few days. I sometimes use the Make Offer option but unfortunately I get those idiots that want to make a low offer then expect me to waste my time negotiating instead of just offering their best price to begin with.

Buyers are just like cards another one will come buy shortly.
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Since when is there anything wrong with a negotiating strategy, particularly on an expensive item? If you need instant gratification hit the BIN, otherwise be patient. Geez.
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Not everyone obsesses over a $100 card or even a $10,000 card when selling it. Sometimes people are just really busy. I don't think you should read much into it.
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Or just maybe the person selling the card does not do it for a living and is not logged into eBay 24/7.

I know I sometime sell on eBay and only check stuff every few days. I sometimes use the Make Offer option but unfortunately I get those idiots that want to make a low offer then expect me to waste my time negotiating instead of just offering their best price to begin with.

Buyers are just like cards another one will come buy shortly.
If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.
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I guess my point is is, if its a negotiating strategy, I think it's a crappy one. I am a not infrequent seller and a frequent buyer. When I list something for sale I actually want to sell it. And I'm happy when a potential bidder emerges. I engage them pretty quickly and if I am lucky enough to have competing bidders I am very happy. Maybe I'm old school but I feel as seller that I owe my potential buyer a relatively quick response either way. Can't believe it would take me more than a day to reject or make a counter offer.

If the seller is unable to take a few seconds to respond in a day because of some other situation that is more urgent that's understandable.

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If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.
Add me to that list with your 82 year old mother.
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If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.
There are lots of very serious dead spots in the middle states, and cell phones break.

There are lots of reasons why people don't respond for a few days. People are getting ready for summer, going to graduations, planning parties, birthdays, vacations, etc.

People do not always work standard business hours and may be dead asleep or work double shifts.

Some people just don't view it as super important, and most email systems now have some sort of lag or delay.

Personally my wife praises my ability to not work on a computer, when I am actually capable of doing so.
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And a buyer could reasonably expect to pay 1400 plus AH shipping

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If the seller comes back with something significantly down that acknowledges the card is overpriced based on recent market action I will certainly come up and meet him higher. In most cases I will pay what it just sold for as that's what the market says its worth. But if you drop down $100 or ignore me that's probably the end of the dance.

It's been discussed here a lot. . . many sellers really aren't in a rush to sell their good stuff. If they get a dream price that's hundreds or thousands over their cost depending on the card they will sell. Nothing inherently wrong or immoral with that at all, but it does waste a lot of time.

The nicest most amazing cards I've seen on BST have been listed by Jeff L. And when he lists a card for $75,000 that's pretty much the market value. He doesn't list them at $225,000 when they are worth $75,000.

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I realize it's not completely rational, but when I make a decent opening offer on an expensive item and someone takes more than a day to respond, I assume there is some game playing going on. And I immediately am inclined not to do a deal. If you list a pretty valuable item, and really want to sell it, I'm guessing you don't need 35 hours to respond. There is a part of me that realizes a work crisis could intervene or you could be dealing with a family situation that's more important than a baseball card sale, but I just can't help it. I feel like you are playing games. And I don't care that eBay gives you twice as long to respond. As I just being an ass?

as THE GODFATHER SAID "I AM GOING TO MAKE HIM AN OFFER HE CANNOT REFUSE" I guess with your "decent offer" that was not the case.
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as THE GODFATHER SAID "I AM GOING TO MAKE HIM AN OFFER HE CANNOT REFUSE" I guess with your "decent offer" that was not the case.
Let's hope not. Did you see the movie?
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