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Old 11-21-2017, 09:32 AM
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I agree that War Eagle and Battlefield are the same seller. I have followed Battlefield auctions over the past 5+ years, and thankfully have never purchased any cards from that seller. I am now though, in quite a quandary as War Eagle is selling several Hartland items that I am very interested in. I realized the photos may be altered, but my question comes to authenticity. As these cannot be sent anywhere for authentication, given the Battlefield background and history, are these memorabilia items also on the AVOID AT ALL COSTS LIST?

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Old 11-21-2017, 09:43 AM
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I agree that War Eagle and Battlefield are the same seller. I have followed Battlefield auctions over the past 5+ years, and thankfully have never purchased any cards from that seller. I am now though, in quite a quandary as War Eagle is selling several Hartland items that I am very interested in. I realized the photos may be altered, but my question comes to authenticity. As these cannot be sent anywhere for authentication, given the Battlefield background and history, are these memorabilia items also on the AVOID AT ALL COSTS LIST?

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Why avoid them? You know Hartlands and their MO is to give immediate refunds. Just make sure the listing offers a refund and go for it. Actually, even if not, if the item is hosed they will still have to take it back as SNAD.......Good luck..

And yes, Dan, as Battlefield is a top rated seller to ebay it makes their whole rating system 100% ineffective at doing what it is supposed to do. It could actually be a lesson in marketing on what NOT to do to instill confidence in your customer base. Everything ebay does in ratings is skewed after their complete ineptitude with that seller (to me).
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:58 AM
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Why avoid them? You know Hartlands and their MO is to give immediate refunds. Just make sure the listing offers a refund and go for it. Actually, even if not, if the item is hosed they will still have to take it back as SNAD.......Good luck..

And yes, Dan, as Battlefield is a top rated seller to ebay it makes their whole rating system 100% ineffective at doing what it is supposed to do. It could actually be a lesson in marketing on what NOT to do to instill confidence in your customer base. Everything ebay does in ratings is skewed after their complete ineptitude with that seller (to me).
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:55 AM
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I agree that War Eagle and Battlefield are the same seller. I have followed Battlefield auctions over the past 5+ years, and thankfully have never purchased any cards from that seller. I am now though, in quite a quandary as War Eagle is selling several Hartland items that I am very interested in. I realized the photos may be altered, but my question comes to authenticity. As these cannot be sent anywhere for authentication, given the Battlefield background and history, are these memorabilia items also on the AVOID AT ALL COSTS LIST?

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Hi Dave

The Hartland original 1958 -60's boxes were reproduced but it is very easy to tell as I have a repro Johnny Unitas box. You can clearly see the dot pattern all over the box that should have solid color.

Now I have never owned 1 of the repro tags so I don't know about those but you are safe with the boxes I believe.

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Old 11-22-2017, 08:34 AM
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I agree that War Eagle and Battlefield are the same seller. I have followed Battlefield auctions over the past 5+ years, and thankfully have never purchased any cards from that seller. I am now though, in quite a quandary as War Eagle is selling several Hartland items that I am very interested in. I realized the photos may be altered, but my question comes to authenticity. As these cannot be sent anywhere for authentication, given the Battlefield background and history, are these memorabilia items also on the AVOID AT ALL COSTS LIST?

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If you have any brains at all you would stay away from anything that Carol Battle sells. She only tries to rip off everyone on every sale, so do you think it's a good idea buying from a thief? So many people buy crap from her and are very unhappy yet don't leave negative feedback. Even if they leave negative feedback it gets wiped out by eBay because she makes them money. If people would only stop buying stuff from her period, she would not be making any money for eBay, and would be forced to quit.
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If you have any brains at all you would stay away from anything that Carol Battle sells. She only tries to rip off everyone on every sale, so do you think it's a good idea buying from a thief? So many people buy crap from her and are very unhappy yet don't leave negative feedback. Even if they leave negative feedback it gets wiped out by eBay because she makes them money. If people would only stop buying stuff from her period, she would not be making any money for eBay, and would be forced to quit.
Exactly. Battlefield has proven time and again to be crooked, taking advantage of both the eBay marketplace rules and collectors like us.

Why support an operation like that??
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They are selling graded cards as well. Should there be any concern with those? I've got my eye on a relatively inexpensive card.
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:34 AM
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They are selling graded cards as well. Should there be any concern with those? I've got my eye on a relatively inexpensive card.
I guess it boils down to the point of do you want to support someone who cheats and steals, even if they aren't cheating you.

That said, there was a '52 Mantle listed by Battlefield earlier that was PSA graded, and members here found where the original card had been sold and comparing the pictures showed Battlefield's was "cleaner". So even on graded cards, I'd say buyer beware.
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