The ultimate trade up

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

When you get the mantle, how long do you plan on keeping it or do you already know how you wish to display it People that are giving you deals that are helping you inch your way toward that goal may want to know.

And whoever has traded with me already can feel free to ask.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

And whoever has traded with me already can feel free to ask.

People who may consider trading with you may want to know as well. Not sure why its a secret to everyone else

[irv]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

People who may consider trading with you may want to know as well. Not sure why its a secret to everyone else

When you purchase a card from someone here or an A/H, do they ask what your plans are with the card?

Odd question, imo, Jake.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by irv

When you purchase a card from someone here or an A/H, do they ask what your plans are with the card?

Odd question, imo, Jake.

It's ok irv. Jakes never contributed anything positive to any of my treads since I joined. Why start now?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by irv

When you purchase a card from someone here or an A/H, do they ask what your plans are with the card?

Odd question, imo, Jake.

Of course not. But this situation is unlike most situations. He is asking for people to go out of their way to help and he has stated his goal (get a mantle). I know if he planned on selling the card a day after getting the mantle, i would want to know that.

Another example would be if someone says they need me to take lesser money for a card than i normally would because they needed medication and were going to sell the card to help them get funds for that. So i do the deal only to learn that it was not true.

Again, people dont have to follow through with what they say but i am just giving you a reason why asking him what he plans to do with the mantle isnt out of line considering this whole thread is about him getting a mantle based on the net54 community helping him out.

I really do not think me asking "what do you plan on doing with the mantle once you get it?" is a tough question for him to answer publicly. Perhaps he was going to put it in a nice looking display and show the net54 community a picture of it , that could encourage more people to work out deals with him. Maybe he doesnt know. My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question.

just saying.....

[Leon]

I didn't think it was that bad of a question given the situation...And an answer of "I prefer not to say" seems ok too.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Of course not. But this situation is unlike most situations. He is asking for people to go out of their way to help and he has stated his goal (get a mantle). I know if he planned on selling the card a day after getting the mantle, i would want to know that.

Another example would be if someone says they need me to take lesser money for a card than i normally would because they needed medication and were going to sell the card to help them get funds for that. So i do the deal only to learn that it was not true.

Again, people dont have to follow through with what they say but i am just giving you a reason why asking him what he plans to do with the mantle isnt out of line considering this whole thread is about him getting a mantle based on the net54 community helping him out.

I really do not think me asking "what do you plan on doing with the mantle once you get it?" is a tough question for him to answer publicly. Perhaps he was going to put it in a nice looking display and show the net54 community a picture of it , that could encourage more people to work out deals with him. Maybe he doesnt know. My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question.

just saying.....

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

I didn't think it was that bad of a question given the situation...And an answer of "I prefer not to say" seems ok too.

+1

If one said (not Stephen) that his mother was in the freezer in the garage and he just needed funds to give her a proper burial, one might get more than one Mantle, or not.

Charitable "giving" to internet strangers with cardboard appetites hardly seems like a ticket to the pearly gates for either party.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

+1

If one said (not Stephen) that his mother was in the freezer in the garage and he just needed funds to give her a proper burial, one might get more than one Mantle, or not.

Charitable "giving" to internet strangers with cardboard appetites hardly seems like a ticket to the pearly gates for either party.

There was a member on the board a few years ago asking for money for health expenses...turned out he was spending the $$$ on baseball cards. The situation was addressed and money was returned...nonetheless it happened.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

+1

If one said (not Stephen) that his mother was in the freezer in the garage and he just needed funds to give her a proper burial, one might get more than one Mantle, or not.

Charitable "giving" to internet strangers with cardboard appetites hardly seems like a ticket to the pearly gates for either party.

Not funny Frank. My mother is in the freezer, no money for a proper burial, and I have no room for corndogs, push pops or Blue Bell.

PM me and I'll give you my PP info. Thanks.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Of course not. But this situation is unlike most situations. He is asking for people to go out of their way to help and he has stated his goal (get a mantle). I know if he planned on selling the card a day after getting the mantle, i would want to know that.

Another example would be if someone says they need me to take lesser money for a card than i normally would because they needed medication and were going to sell the card to help them get funds for that. So i do the deal only to learn that it was not true.

Again, people dont have to follow through with what they say but i am just giving you a reason why asking him what he plans to do with the mantle isnt out of line considering this whole thread is about him getting a mantle based on the net54 community helping him out.

I really do not think me asking "what do you plan on doing with the mantle once you get it?" is a tough question for him to answer publicly. Perhaps he was going to put it in a nice looking display and show the net54 community a picture of it , that could encourage more people to work out deals with him. Maybe he doesnt know. My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question.

just saying.....

Jake, how much money do you make per year? My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question. Just saying.....

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by conor912

Jake, how much money do you make per year? My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question. Just saying.....

+1

Jake if this was a one time thing cool, however you are always negative in every thread I create. If you can prove otherwise please do.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

+1

Jake if this was a one time thing cool, however you are always negative in every thread I create. If you can prove otherwise please do.

Take a look at the thread where you said you were quitting...look at what i posted.....i didnt tell you to quit at all and not negative to you at all, plus i cant think of any threads specifically where i would of been negative to you. i dont want to spend the time to look for every post you made to see if if i can find the one negative thing i had said (which i assume you are referring to but which im sure would of been warranted). You are the one that is making that accusation which i am denying so if you can prove otherwise please do. By the way, your posts directed to me could be interpreted as negative...

we are both big jackie robinson fans and you have a lot of energy into the hobby, im all for that and have interest in your posts on subject matters we both enjoy it appears.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by conor912

Jake, how much money do you make per year? My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question. Just saying.....

I prefer not to say. With that being said, can you give me $5.00, you can paypal it and i really need it.

I didnt say in not so many words, 'ill only tell a certain amount of people that deal with me'

It seems others here agree what i said is fine for the thread including Leon..

just saying

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Of course not. But this situation is unlike most situations. He is asking for people to go out of their way to help and he has stated his goal (get a mantle). I know if he planned on selling the card a day after getting the mantle, i would want to know that.

Another example would be if someone says they need me to take lesser money for a card than i normally would because they needed medication and were going to sell the card to help them get funds for that. So i do the deal only to learn that it was not true.

Again, people dont have to follow through with what they say but i am just giving you a reason why asking him what he plans to do with the mantle isnt out of line considering this whole thread is about him getting a mantle based on the net54 community helping him out.

I really do not think me asking "what do you plan on doing with the mantle once you get it?" is a tough question for him to answer publicly. Perhaps he was going to put it in a nice looking display and show the net54 community a picture of it , that could encourage more people to work out deals with him. Maybe he doesnt know. My question isnt an attack, its just a simple question.

just saying.....

Yes, the ultimate goal being a '52 Mantle, but he isn't asking people to go out of their way to help him. He is offering people more liquid cards for less liquid cards.

If I had $800 in gold to sell/trade, and you had $1000 in mulch to sell/trade and you were struggling to sell/trade that mulch, would you not consider taking the $800 in gold? Odd example, I know, but that's the idea of his actions.

At the same time, I don't think it's unfair to ask what he plans on doing with the Mantle if/once he obtains one, but I also think it's ok for him not to share.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

Yes, the ultimate goal being a '52 Mantle, but he isn't asking people to go out of their way to help him. He is offering people more liquid cards for less liquid cards.

If I had $800 in gold to sell/trade, and you had $1000 in mulch to sell/trade and you were struggling to sell/trade that mulch, would you not consider taking the $800 in gold? Odd example, I know, but that's the idea of his actions.

At the same time, I don't think it's unfair to ask what he plans on doing with the Mantle if/once he obtains one, but I also think it's ok for him not to share.

For anyone that cares (not sure anyone besides James even
Does) I have no idea what I'm gonna do with the mantle. I just thought it was a fun idea to try to trade up to a mantle. So if that keeps anyone from making a trade with me so be it lol

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

For anyone that cares (not sure anyone besides James even
Does) I have no idea what I'm gonna do with the mantle. I just thought it was a fun idea to try to trade up to a mantle. So if that keeps anyone from making a trade with me so be it lol

Thats all you had to say, it a better answer than 'i wont tell you or the public, only people i have traded with' It may not help people go out their way to help you but it is what it is.....

Thats all i asked. It wasnt negative to you, it was just a question that many poeple on the thread do not think i was unreasonable to ask...actually you are the only one that seemed to think that....correct me if you can prove otherwise

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

And whoever has traded with me already can feel free to ask.

Sorry, its nothing at all personal, but when you're asking for charity.... And yes, use any rhetoric you choose... You're still asking people to give you MORE for LESS...
Plus you're somewhat known for constantly asking others to share their knowledge with items you are unaware of.... but then the minute you get what you want, its no one's business expect the people willing to "donate" to your noble cause? With all due respect, you honestly can't see how that would rub people the wrong way?? This isn't rocket science, the bottom line is you're on here always asking to receive more than you give.... and some people get tired of it.

Again, its nothing personal. I'm sure you're a nice guy, but acting like this is somewhat juvenile. That said, if you were willingly more transparent, I think it would help benefit your goal.

Brent

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

[QUOTE=Huysmans;1653603]Sorry, its nothing at all personal, but when you're asking for charity.... And yes, use any rhetoric you choose... You're still asking people to give you MORE for LESS...
Plus you're somewhat known for constantly asking others to share their knowledge with items you are unaware of.... but then the minute you get what you want, its no one's business expect the people willing to "donate" to your noble cause? With all due respect, you honestly can't see how that would rub people the wrong way?? This isn't rocket science, the bottom line is you're on here always asking to receive more than you give.... and some people get tired of it.

Again, its nothing personal. I'm sure you're a nice guy, but acting like this is somewhat juvenile. That said, if you were willingly more transparent, I think it would help benefit your goal. Quote



Ps it's not charity.

If I have a cobb and you have a don Larsen. Mines worth 1000 yours is worth 1200 psa 10 mines a psa 1. Which market is bigger? Which is a easier sell? Which would you rather have?

How am I not transparent? I couldn't make this post any more clear. I'm trading up to a mantle. Holy smokes.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Ps it's not charity.

If I have a cobb and you have a don Larsen. Mines worth 1000 yours is worth 1200 psa 10 mines a psa 1. Which market is bigger? Which is a easier sell? Which would you rather have?

How am I not transparent? I couldn't make this post any more clear. I'm trading up to a mantle. Holy smokes.

What would be really cool is if you would keep a running total of what you have for trade in each of your new posts.

There was a guy who did this a couple years ago over on BO and he done it perfectly. Even had eBay/PayPal and shipping fees listed. Everybody got to see how far he had come and how far he had left to go. Getting your posts in this thread organized and keeping them on point will really help in your goal.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by bnorth

What would be really cool is if you would keep a running total of what you have for trade in each of your new posts.

There was a guy who did this a couple years ago over on BO and he done it perfectly. Even had eBay/PayPal and shipping fees listed. Everybody got to see how far he had come and how far he had left to go. Getting your posts in this thread organized and keeping them on point will really help in your goal.

Totally agree!

I have been doing it or atleast trying. I have those T-206's and photos. Those are what's left to trade.

[Huysmans]

[QUOTE=EYECOLLECTVINTAGE;1653607]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Sorry, its nothing at all personal, but when you're asking for charity.... And yes, use any rhetoric you choose... You're still asking people to give you MORE for LESS...
Plus you're somewhat known for constantly asking others to share their knowledge with items you are unaware of.... but then the minute you get what you want, its no one's business expect the people willing to "donate" to your noble cause? With all due respect, you honestly can't see how that would rub people the wrong way?? This isn't rocket science, the bottom line is you're on here always asking to receive more than you give.... and some people get tired of it.

Again, its nothing personal. I'm sure you're a nice guy, but acting like this is somewhat juvenile. That said, if you were willingly more transparent, I think it would help benefit your goal. Quote



Ps it's not charity.

If I have a cobb and you have a don Larsen. Mines worth 1000 yours is worth 1200 psa 10 mines a psa 1. Which market is bigger? Which is a easier sell? Which would you rather have?

How am I not transparent? I couldn't make this post any more clear. I'm trading up to a mantle. Holy smokes.

You just said it yourself....YOURS is worth 1000... THEIRS is worth 1200
You do understand that one amount is MORE than the other right?? I don't care about what kind of rationale you use regarding which market is bigger, its CHARITY... plain and simple... You want MORE for giving LESS. Is this really hard for you to understand? Just be honest with yourself and others.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

[QUOTE=Huysmans;1653614]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

You just said it yourself....YOURS is worth 1000... THEIRS is worth 1200
You do understand that one amount is MORE than the other right?? I don't care about what kind of rationale you use regarding which market is bigger, its CHARITY... plain and simple... You want MORE for giving LESS. Is this really hard for you to understand? Just be honest with yourself and others.

If I had a Larsen and someone had the cobb I'd do that trade in a heart beat if I wasn't looking to trade up for a mantle. I wouldn't consider it charity. I'd consider it a good trade for me. Why? I probably didn't pay 1200 for the Larsen and don't wanna pay 1000 for a cobb. Selling the Larsen may take a while, and even after fees my 1200 larsen is 1050.

[Huysmans]

[QUOTE=EYECOLLECTVINTAGE;1653624]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

If I had a Larsen and someone had the cobb I'd do that trade in a heart beat if I wasn't looking to trade up for a mantle. I wouldn't consider it charity. I'd consider it a good trade for me. Why? I probably didn't pay 1200 for the Larsen and don't wanna pay 1000 for a cobb. Selling the Larsen may take a while, and even after fees my 1200 larsen is 1050.

Sorry, no. Your argument would only have validity if the market guaranteed 100% that one card would sell quicker than the other... But EVERYONE reading this knows these things aren't set in stone. I hate to sound arrogant, and I'm often wrong... but here I'm not.
The fact that you used words like "probably" and "may" says it all... Your fantasy is based on wishful thinking to benefit yourself.. Nothing more. If you want to collect on ASSUMPTION, more power to you, but don't expect that from others.
...you still just can't be honest with the members on here or, more importantly, yourself.

Again Stephen its nothing personal, I'm just the type that has to call out a wrong.
Sorry....

I do wish you the best otherwise.

Brent

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by bnorth

What would be really cool is if you would keep a running total of what you have for trade in each of your new posts.

There was a guy who did this a couple years ago over on BO and he done it perfectly. Even had eBay/PayPal and shipping fees listed. Everybody got to see how far he had come and how far he had left to go. Getting your posts in this thread organized and keeping them on point will really help in your goal.

[QUOTE=Huysmans;1653633]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Sorry, no. Your argument would only have validity if the market guaranteed 100% that one card would sell quicker than the other... But EVERYONE reading this knows these things aren't set in stone. I hate to sound arrogant, and I'm often wrong... but here I'm not.
The fact that you used words like "probably" and "may" says it all... Your fantasy is based on wishful thinking to benefit yourself.. Nothing more. If you want to collect on ASSUMPTION, more power to you, but don't expect that from others.
...you still just can't be honest with the members on here or, more importantly, yourself.

Again Stephen its nothing personal, I'm just the type that has to call out a wrong.
Sorry....

I do wish you the best otherwise.

Brent

Wrong in your opinion. Some will agree with your "opinion" and some here won't. I'm the type to call out a hater. You're a hater. You do sound arrogant. How am I being dishonest? You make no sense. Hey wanna trade? No? That's cool. Hit up another thread.