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Old 09-12-2005, 01:40 PM
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Posted By: leon

I just won this last night, Worch Cigars, and thought it was one of the best portrait's I have seen on any card......Has anyone else seen this particular card before? I think it's pretty scarce....btw, why the heck are Worch so undervalued? Maybe the size (being that of a postcard)?..thanks

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Old 09-12-2005, 01:49 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

I've only seen a handful of Worch's, but not this one. Definately a great picture. If I remember the set correctly, I think part of the reason for the lack of value is that most of the cards are of Minneapolis Millers and St Paul Saints players with Joe Hauser being the only one from either of those teams of any significance.

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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

NOOOO...Leon these were supposed to be a secret!

I have never seen the Mack before, but thought it was cool also. I won the Gomez to go with my Foxx that I got at the National. The Worch's have size and in this case rarity going against them. With some issues rarity drives the value, but in this case I think they are so rare that few people know about them and collect them. Most of them have really neat photos that often aren't found on other cards and postcard size isn't a drawback to me at all.

Very nice pickup on the Mack!

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Posted By: Bryan Long

Some secrets are better left undiscovered - at least until I pick up more of these cards Great cards BTW. I love the pictures, but I have to admit that for awhile the "big" cards did go into my collection. I am quickly changing my mind about them though.

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Posted By: Tim Newcomb

was also used for the R311 Leather premium set a couple of years later.

I think Worch Cigar cards are fascinating and greatly undervalued. My guess is that they're so scarce that there's little demand for them-- few know of their existence, and fewer are convinced of their availability.

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Posted By: jay behrens

have any of you been able to acquire the mailing envelope? I've only seen one.

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

I was the second underbidder on the Mack, and might have won had I known how to properly use my snipe service

I would agree that there are not many set collectors interested in Worch's, but those chasing HOFers, Mack in particular or types are not afraid to search and bid. They do not come up often, but no less so than some other sets --m101-6, Gold Medal and Holsum come to mind.

It's hard to say what's undervalued anymore, but they sure haven't taken off like the other pre-war sets. Flippin' m101s are getting ridiculous, for example.

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Posted By: Mark Tylicki

Congrats Leon! You outbid me on this one. I loved the pose and was looking to add it to my HOF portrait collection. I think my snipe was set at around $380. Nice pickup

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Lefty Grove's 1933 Worch Cigar card is shown below on the left. This pose was not used on any other vintage cards that I'm aware of, with the exception of the 1933 R308 Tattoo Orbit card, which is shown on the right.



Frank Ward does have a few of these Worch Cigar cards for sale, if anyone's interested.



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Posted By: Frank Evanov

I was the underbidder on the Dean and Ott cards...the Worch Ott picture is also used on his Diamond Star cards.

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Posted By: David Vargha

Here's my token copy . . .



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Posted By: Anonymous

isn't there a Gehrig card from this set ?

I remeber one anyways.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Worch-Cigar-Lou-Gehrig-GAI-3-5-VG_W0QQitemZ5233819580QQcategoryZ106179QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: jay behrens

Isn't that Gehrig in a pre-grade sleeve from GAI?

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Posted By: quan

i think that's the actual holder jay. gai wins hands down for some of the ugliest holders i've seen.

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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

That is the GAI holder for it - I was the underbidder on the Gehrig and it would have been on its way to SGC if I had won it.

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