Kelly Old Judge on Ebay

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Posted By: Anthony N.

From the added description on ebay
<< At least 3 graders from PSA thought it was an original, mis-cut card or they would have body-bagged it. I don't think they would have missed the obvious "Goodwin and Company" ad>>

Nah, they never could've missed the bottom trimmed off a card- Goodwin and Co. must've meant to do that, just like Mayo Cut Plug did.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

All N172 Old Judge Baseball Cards, regardless of year of issue, should have a final line stating "Goodwin & Co., New York." (in varying forms of text and punctuation). The bottom of this short numbered Kelly card didn't advertise the cigarettes, but instead only the issuer's name and location. The cigarette advertisement, like all other 1887 Old Judges, is located in the image area (see "OLD JUDGE Cigarettes" banner).

I agree with Jay, it appears the card was trimmed on more than one side. Extremely sad that this card would be graded at all.

Best Regards,
Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: boxingcardman

that I mentioned above was Lot 188 in Lew Lipset's Nov 6-7 2002 Auction. The player was McGunnigle.


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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

I suspect that this card has been trimmed - or was possibly miscut at the factory. If only I knew for sure . . . perhaps a third party professional sportscard authenticator could help me.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

One would think that professional graders would know what an Old Judge looks like. After what happened with the Mayo card of Shindle, wouldn't you think PSA would supply its graders with photos of all of the possible cards they might be grading? Or at least spend $25 for a copy of the SCD catalog for each grader?

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Posted By: Rawn Hill

Or perhaps look to the knowledge of the experts in this forum.

Rawn