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Old 09-16-2017, 07:18 AM
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Why don't you tell the whole story of what happened? At least then everyone could have an informed opinion.


It really doesn't matter about what you or anyone else thinks...I made a Rookie error, I was naive and it caused problems. After that problem resolved (for the other individual) I was removed from here for a bit, after a few weeks, I put my pride in my back pocket and came forth and apologized to Leon in a lengthy email. He then suggested I do the same on Net54 and I did....end of story...

Not trying to sound like an Ass, but that's just my perspective


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Old 09-16-2017, 07:22 AM
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It really doesn't matter about what you or anyone else thinks...I made a Rookie error, I was naive and it caused problems. After that problem resolved (for the other individual) I was removed from here for a bit, after a few weeks, I put my pride in my back pocket and came forth and apologized to Leon in a lengthy email. He then suggested I do the same on Net54 and I did....end of story...

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How is it a "rookie" error when you were obviously involved with cards three years ago when you were told they were fake? Rookie status is long gone on this one, sorry.
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:25 AM
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How is it a "rookie" error when you were obviously involved with cards three years ago when you were told they were fake? Rookie status is long gone on this one, sorry.


The "Rookie" error is I was advised and given info on it yet I did not heed the information. That is a mistake I won't make again...sorry, I was not aware of a certain timeline one is no longer a rookie. Maybe if I devoted 24/7 of my time into the hobby then yeah sure I should have known better, but that's not the case...


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Old 09-16-2017, 07:27 AM
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The "Rookie" error is I was advised and given info on it yet I did not heed the information. That is a mistake I won't make again...sorry, I was not aware of a certain timeline one is no longer a rookie. Maybe if I devoted 24/7 of my time into the hobby then yeah sure I should have known better, but that's not the case...


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You stated your situation above. If I were you I would just let the comments go. You apologized in the email to me and to the board. You don't owe anyone anything as far as I can tell. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, that is ok too. It is America and is great again!!
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:28 AM
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You stated your situation above. If I were you I would just let the comments go. You apologized in the email to me and to the board. You don't owe anyone anything as far as I can tell. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, that is ok too. It is America and is great again!!





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Old 09-16-2017, 07:33 AM
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:47 AM
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To Anthony's credit, I inquired on the Blome's Cobb as well just a few months ago and his story was such obvious bullshit that I just had to see how far he'd push it. Lucky for me, he had already defrauded someone else on the board with the card and couldn't pretend sell it to me. Glad to have you back, Anthony!
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:54 AM
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You stated your situation above. If I were you I would just let the comments go. You apologized in the email to me and to the board. You don't owe anyone anything as far as I can tell. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, that is ok too. It is America and is great again!!

Quick question here....since Ted was the one defrauded, was he ever actually apologized to?
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:08 AM
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I am generally good with apologies but without reading through all of the previous threads....was the buyer made whole? Did he get all his money back.
I suppose that would be the true test of an apology.
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PayPal made the refund. Seller was told the card was fake. Seller then avoided all communication. If it wasn't for PayPal buyer never would've gotten a refund.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:28 PM
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You stated your situation above. If I were you I would just let the comments go. You apologized in the email to me and to the board. You don't owe anyone anything as far as I can tell. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, that is ok too. It is America and is great again!!
I don't like it at all. I can't believe you let this guy back on the board. I hope for the sake of the rest of this community he is at least banned from the bst permanently.
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I would say he owes PayPal, Inc. $650 if the story has been spelled out properly in this thread.
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I don't like it at all. I can't believe you let this guy back on the board. I hope for the sake of the rest of this community he is at least banned from the bst permanently.
His BST privileges are suspended.

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Multiple thousand dollar card being sold for $650 and no one finds it fishy?
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Old 09-16-2017, 03:32 PM
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His BST privileges are suspended.

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Well thank someone for that, at least.

BTW, enfuego, you are the lone entry in my ignore list.

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You stated your situation above. If I were you I would just let the comments go. You apologized in the email to me and to the board. You don't owe anyone anything as far as I can tell. And if anyone doesn't like it....well, that is ok too. It is America and is great again!!
Seems like to me it would be nice if he refund the money himself. That would be a nice gesture if contrition were real. Just my $.02
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:51 PM
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That's one benefit of using PayPal . Still a hassle though .
Part of why I'm not a huge fan of sellers that require F&F only.


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It really doesn't matter about what you or anyone else thinks...I made a Rookie error, I was naive and it caused problems. After that problem resolved (for the other individual) I was removed from here for a bit, after a few weeks, I put my pride in my back pocket and came forth and apologized to Leon in a lengthy email. He then suggested I do the same on Net54 and I did....end of story...

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Based on other comments in this thread, you were aware that the card(s) were fake. So I'm going to go ahead and assume you mean your "rookie error" was more in reference to getting caught as a "rookie" scammer. Nothing you have said shows any remorse for your criminal actions.
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