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Old 04-06-2017, 02:47 PM
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...and requires the exercise of professional opinion, which can change from time to time.
Thanks for this.

Wowza... I must be married to a Professional Authenticator, because she constantly changes her opinion.
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What does she charge for her "opinion"?
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What are people's thoughts with Beckett entering the mix now that Steve Grad has jumped on board? I see quite a few auctions houses, including REA starting to jump on board.
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Beckett has assembled a solid group of knowledgeable authenticators, it seems, and I'd be pretty comfortable with authenticity from them on most sports items. I Still like PSA and JSA more on vintage and bigger name sports stars, but Beckett is ok in my book, though I'd like to see more of a track record over the next few years and see if any major blunders occur.

Additonally, I trust NONE of them on new Hollywood or celebrity autos as the autos themselves are a joke and authenticating a squiggly line, to me, isn't possible.
Are you guys referring to just the authentication of signatures or are these guy also grading cards for Beckett now too?
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What does she charge for her "opinion"?
Eventually... half of everything.
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All it needs to say is they have carte blanche...

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According to the JSA website:
Certification and authentication involves an individual judgment that is subjective and requires the exercise of professional opinion, which can change from time to time. Therefore, JSA makes no warranty or representation and shall have no liability whatsoever to the customer for the opinion rendered by JSA on any submission.

And on the back of the Beckett Authentication submission form:
3. Certification and authentication involves an individual judgement that is subjective and requires the exercise of professional opinion, which can change
from time to time. Therefore, Beckett Authentication Services makes no warranty or representation and shall have no liability whatsoever to the customer
for the opinion rendered on any submission.


They must've had the same lawyer reviewing their docs...
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Considering for several years JSA and Beckett had a working arrangement, there is nothing surprising about the same verbiage.

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Old 04-15-2017, 10:42 AM
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Original LOA was from Spence....

Rectangular cut, boldly signed by*Babe Ruth in black fountain pen (grading "10"). Encapsulated by Beckett, with the signature certified as "Authentic." This is an exceptional Ruth cut and one that would be perfect for creating a framed photo display. The cut (5 x 2.25 inches) displays a heavy horizontal fold below Ruth's signature, as well as a few light creases. In Very Good condition overall.Please Note: This piece originally appeared in REA's 2009 auction, at which time it was accompanied by a letter of authenticity from James Spence/JSA. During the authentication process for this auction, JSA declined to provide a new LOA on the cut, as did PSA/DNA. Autograph authentication is not an exact science, and opinions on authenticity can change sometimes. We are presenting this piece as is with this important disclosure.*
Therein lies the problem. Even the best experts can at times be fooled.
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