Absurd PWCC Shipping Cost........BEWARE

[hcv123]

I was charged $30 Shipping for 1 PSA graded standard size card!!

[packs]

Maybe I should add a $15 buying cost to my eBay profile and then charge sellers $15 for letting me bid and win their items. Then I'll just point to my profile if they complain.

[irv]

Originally Posted by autograf

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-L40-Mu...p2047675.l2557

As if the shilling isn't enough.....I won an L40 Amherst Baseball leather on ebay last night. It said $15.00 shipping, so I should have emailed them but their Shipping matrix shows $4 for a single item won between $0-$250. I emailed to confirm after winning and was told that it fell in the oversize clause of their shipping. The leather is 2-9/16 by 3-9/16, exactly 1/16 by 1/16 larger than a standard sized card. It comes with an envelope that it came in which is maybe 1/16 larger than that as it fits snugly inside.

I was informed by Bobby Rittenhouse of PWCC that the $15.00 was, indeed, a good shipping charge for the item. Should have checked with them first because didn't think they would try to go with the absurd shipping. SOOOOO.....be sure you look very closely as they do not really understand the true meaning of the word oversized. I'll be expecting this item to be shipped in the sturdiest of containers, double-boxed due to the extreme fragility, in the timeliest of manners.

I started a post here about their shipping fees but I was wrong when I thought they increased the higher the bids went.
Regardless, I still find their shipping fees excessive, especially paying the exchange rate on them, but I thought you guys stateside paid a lot less than what we do up here.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252091

Like you'll see in the above post, a lot of their fees don't make any sense, at least in my opinion.

[Rhotchkiss]

I have paid $75.00 shipping to PWCC for a single, T206 card in a standard PSA flip. But, the shipping cost was clearly stated and i just considered it part of the price and bid accordingly. In other words, I knew what I was getting into. PWCC's shipping is silly expensive/high, but if I see a T206 Matty White Cap PSA 6.5 I must have, let alone thus T213 that cost me $25 in shipping, then I will pay the shipping.

[autograf]

$17 Card.

[Rhotchkiss]

I agree it’s annoying (ok wrong) to pay almost as much in shipping as you did for the card, and I validate that PWCC’s shipping is wicked high and customer service may dictate that they give breaks to an angry customer when something is an inch large. All I am saying is that it’s tough to get behind a rant about how much shipping someone paid when shipping costs are clearly disclosed; and Tom, in your case, I don’t know if shipping was disclosed, my comment is general in nature.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I was charged $30 Shipping for 1 PSA graded standard size card!!

What was the value of the card?
James

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

What was the value of the card?
James

Agreed...if it was a $5,000 card, that is actually cheap.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

agreed...if it was a $5,000 card, that is actually cheap.

1300

[mikehawk]

My guess is that you are paying for insurance on the items and not just packaging and shipping.

[iowadoc77]

Absurd? Absolutely
Spelled out for all to see? Yes
Surprises? No
Frustration? Yes
Answer? If you don’t like it don’t bid or contact them before the auction ends.
Eric Recker

[Sophiedog]

When bidders see a high shipping charge for a single item like that, a lot will dismiss the auction altogether and the item will be won cheaper than if the shipping charge was say $4.00. Works in the buyers favor more times than not; at least in my experiences with items that have an excessive shiipping charge.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by hcv123

I was charged $30 Shipping for 1 PSA graded standard size card!!

What about Christies! They charged me $2300 shipping on a small felt pennant!

(Not true, but I just want to win this one for a change.)

[Dpeck100]

When you use the term BEWARE in all caps it leads me to believe that someone is trying to do something to harm you and they weren't clear about their intent.

The shipping on all items is posted and they have a matrix below the listing that clearly states the potential shipping charges based on size and insurance on the final selling price.

PWCC does a tremendous job on their shipping. They use high quality materials and the item is packed extremely well. For a high volume seller to offer such quality shipping is one of the reasons they have such a large customer base. Compare their packaging for a few bucks more vs. Probstein and it isn't even close.

You got what you paid for. I have no idea what this item should have sold for but as was pointed it out it is very common for bidders to factor in the total cost and base their bid on it. Kind of like going out to dinner and realizing there are taxes and gratuity not included on the menu prices.

[autograf]

To be fair................

I just received a $7.00 credit from PWCC.

"With the envelope and COA together the size is larger than a normal sized card. We have however as a one time courtesy given you a partial refund on your shipping. Thank you very much for participating in our auction."

I'm still paying $8.00 for shipping but either through this forum or whatever force of nature, they [kind of] did the right thing. Just wanted to be sure they got their due.

[irv]

Originally Posted by autograf

To be fair................

I just received a $7.00 credit from PWCC.

"With the envelope and COA together the size is larger than a normal sized card. We have however as a one time courtesy given you a partial refund on your shipping. Thank you very much for participating in our auction."

I'm still paying $8.00 for shipping but either through this forum or whatever force of nature, they [kind of] did the right thing. Just wanted to be sure they got their due.

That'd be my guess.

[soxandcubbies]

Let me say this, I don't believe, at least in PWCC's case that shipping is one of the reasons that makes them one of the top sellers. Proper shipping goes the sale, any self respecting seller with tell you that. And I don't remember them always charging high shipping costs, they were pretty reasonable at one time. The quality of the items that they auction off is the main reason anyone follows them. I bought 3 Triple Folders from them a while ago and they wanted charge me 45 dollars. After contacting them they reduced the cost to 20. It's overkill, no doubt about it.

Jim

[RCMcKenzie]

I like PWCC. Why can't they consolidate shipping? A normal ebay seller would. That said, love these 2 new ones even if I paid way too much for shipping.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by soxandcubbies

Let me say this, I don't believe, at least in PWCC's case that shipping is one of the reasons that makes them one of the top sellers. Proper shipping goes the sale, any self respecting seller with tell you that. And I don't remember them always charging high shipping costs, they were pretty reasonable at one time. The quality of the items that they auction off is the main reason anyone follows them. I bought 3 Triple Folders from them a while ago and they wanted charge me 45 dollars. After contacting them they reduced the cost to 20. It's overkill, no doubt about it.

Jim

Won a couple of nice items in PWCC's last auction and was so relieved that, when paying my invoice, there was no 20% vig and no Fl sales tax attached. I didn't even check the shipping charge.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by soxandcubbies

Let me say this, I don't believe, at least in PWCC's case that shipping is one of the reasons that makes them one of the top sellers. Proper shipping goes the sale, any self respecting seller with tell you that. And I don't remember them always charging high shipping costs, they were pretty reasonable at one time. The quality of the items that they auction off is the main reason anyone follows them. I bought 3 Triple Folders from them a while ago and they wanted charge me 45 dollars. After contacting them they reduced the cost to 20. It's overkill, no doubt about it.

Jim

So you think if we were reading stories of buyers have cards arrive that are damaged it wouldn't hurt their sales?

They understand the transaction process and it involves making sure the product makes it to its final destination in the condition it was listed in.

Common sense business practice here.

[oldsportscards]

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