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Old 06-04-2018, 11:39 AM
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Speaking of patents, I do see that as of 2017 there is a Patent Pending for computer grading technology.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160210734A1/en
Who are these guys?
Inventor: Stephen Brent Kass, Edward Korbel, Daniel R. Barbakow, Robert Alan Cook
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Who are these guys?
Inventor: Stephen Brent Kass, Edward Korbel, Daniel R. Barbakow, Robert Alan Cook
There are few more listed in the newest application:

https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180004756

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Inventors: Stephen Brent Kass (Los Angeles, CA), Edward Korbel (Sherman Oaks, CA), Daniel R. Barbakow (Los Angeles, CA), Robert Alan Cook (Encino, CA), Scot Maxwell (Tustin, CA), Hayden Blauzvern (Austin, TX), Megan Shao (Torrance, CA), Ben Teng (Santa Clara, CA), Avi Thaker (Austin, TX)
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:55 AM
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These guys know of what they speak.

"Awareness in the marketplace of the possibilities for resubmitted cards receiving higher grades has resulted in card owners breaking open the “tamper proof” holders and resubmitting the cards multiple times, if necessary, without disclosing that the card has been previously graded.

The variance in grades for resubmitted cards combined with the subjective and inconsistent card grading process itself results in creating a lack of confidence in the marketplace necessary to sustain a stable and efficient market.

The present process utilized in the grading industry creates opportunity for larger collectors (e.g. larger customers of the card grading companies) to manipulate the current system's subjective grading to their advantage by re-submitting cards for a higher grade based upon natural human variability or their influence as a large customer. Small collectors lack sufficient size to “influence” card grading and often sell cards at lower prices due to the lower grades they receive."
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Speaking of patents, I do see that as of 2017 there is a Patent Pending for computer grading technology.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160210734A1/en
That is some good stuff there. Looks like I made some people a lot of money
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There are few more listed in the newest application:

https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180004756
I wonder how many of those guys are members here on NET54?
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Are you saying that YOU are the one who actually invented this?
Did you file for a patent application?
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:46 PM
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Are you saying that YOU are the one who actually invented this?
Yes I did

No worries. Hard to prove its your unique idea when its written and built almost to a T from someone else plans and ideas from 10 years prior to filing.
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The problem isn't subjectivity, it isn't that people are doing the grading. It's right there in the patent.

"Each of the grading companies grade cards by human evaluation, primarily with the naked eye and typically devote approximately one minute per card during the grading process. "

That's why things are a mess.

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The problem isn't subjectivity, it isn't that people are doing the grading. It's right there in the patent.

"Each of the grading companies grade cards by human evaluation, primarily with the naked eye and typically devote approximately one minute per card during the grading process. "

That's why things are a mess.
I would guess it would be actually much less.
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