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Old 02-11-2019, 08:22 AM
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Just a bit off center is the deep part of Fenway at 420


They sort of tried building "standard" stadiums in the 70's, and it was dull dull dull.
Agreed. Just when people talk about standardizing the rules, shouldn't the dimensions be the same? What if one NFL field was 105 yards and another was 85? The quirkiness of the dimensions, DH rule etc is one of the great things about baseball.

FWIW, I like most of the other rule changes.
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:34 AM
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The only proposed rule change that made sense to me was roster size.
26 man roster makes sense now.
In the past, you had 25 man rosters with 10 pitchers. Managers could pinch hit without fear. A strategy was utilized more so than now. With teams now carrying 12/13 pitchers, the benches are very thin.
And limit the Sept. roster to 28, that would make the absurd rule of 3 batter minimum not necessary. With rosters at 28, they could not load up on relief pitchers.

25 to 26 seems inconsequential to me. Lets make it 25 to 46. With an additional 20 arms in the bullpen, more specialization based on analytics would be possible, as well as more commercial breaks for pitching changes.

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Old 02-11-2019, 11:54 AM
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When the DH first appeared in 1973, the leagues were separate, so while it was odd for each league to have different rules, it at least didn't cause any problems. Now that we have interleague play, the rules are determined by who is the home team. That's ridiculous.

Either have the DH in both leagues, or get rid of it entirely. Doesn't matter to me which one they utimately choose, but having separate rules makes no sense.
I say keep the DH the way it is and reduce interleague play back down to the All-Star game and the World Series.
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If both leagues continue to play each other throughout the season then one rule needs to be in place. My vote is for the "Home Team" to have the option to decide before each game if the game will be played with or without the DH that day. This would increase and not decrease strategy in the game. The manager would have to review both rosters( strenghts vs rh and lh pitchers) and decide that day based on his pitcher (Rh vs LH) and the opposing pitcher if he wanted to use the DH that day or not. Many factors involved( bench, your injuries vs the oppsing team injuries etc). If playing a team with a great DH and you know he may not play if you decide not to use the DH that day then that would be a great strategy ( maybe making the opposing manager put (Pujols or Cruz ) on the bench etc. Pujols has an injury, then no DH that day and that would eliminate the opposing teams DH that day. Endless factors and possibilies . More strategy not less. Would be a lot of discussion and second guessing. Sounds fun to me.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:40 PM
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The Braves might be in favor of the DH:

Pitchers were 23-for-283 - that's a .081 clip, folks.


Foltynewicz, Newcome and Anabel Sanchez:

3/58; 2/45 & 1/42 = 6-for-145 - .041 with 98 Ks

Giving up a ton of ABs!


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Your stats above show just how overblown the DH discussion is. Using the Braves stats as your example pitchers hit fewer than 2 times per game. Do we really need to eliminate the primary source of strategy in the game for 2 better at bats?

Id prefer to eliminate the DH altogether but the Players Union would never allow it.
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I can't believe the union would be in favor of the DH in the NL. That means one player on every NL team will lose their job. Hard to believe the union would support that. Someone's getting cut to make room and a lot of those players serve no other purpose than to pinch hit or be a defensive replacement.
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Maybe they should learn to hit to the opposite field instead of bellyaching about it.
One word, three letters: E-G-O. Can you see Bryce Harper giving in to the shift and laying a bunt down the third base line instead of trying to punch one through the right side?? I agree with KCR.

And as far as the union goes, I would imagine that the average salary for a DH is higher than that of the last man off the bench who is used to pinch hit. A lot of the DHs are higher paid veterans who can't field a lick, but can still hit the big fly.

Like it or not (and generally I'm against the DH), the NL is the last holdout in the universe that has not embraced the DH. Any change going forward will be the NL letting go and joining all the other baseball leagues in existence. Not the other way around.

ps. One good thing about the DH at younger levels is that it gets one more kid off the bench and on the field in a game. Yes, their PT is limited, but their name is in the lineup.
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One word, three letters: E-G-O. Can you see Bryce Harper giving in to the shift and laying a bunt down the third base line instead of trying to punch one through the right side?? I agree with KCR.

And as far as the union goes, I would imagine that the average salary for a DH is higher than that of the last man off the bench who is used to pinch hit. A lot of the DHs are higher paid veterans who can't field a lick, but can still hit the big fly.

Like it or not (and generally I'm against the DH), the NL is the last holdout in the universe that has not embraced the DH. Any change going forward will be the NL letting go and joining all the other baseball leagues in existence. Not the other way around.

ps. One good thing about the DH at younger levels is that it gets one more kid off the bench and on the field in a game. Yes, their PT is limited, but their name is in the lineup.

That's assuming a lot. What if the last guy cut is in the bullpen? I don't see the union being in favor of prospective salary over salary that exists. Just seems like they're advocating for someone losing their job. I'm not saying the times don't change, just that it's an unusual thing for the union to support.
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The strategy argument is complete BS. 99% of the time, the pinch hitter is a better batter than the pitcher. So if it seems the pitcher is weakening, you pinch hit, and if the pitcher is dominating, he stays in. NO strategy there. And the double-switch, really.

I look at it this way: If a position player is out a few games, clubs send him to the minors to get in a few AB's. If this is the case, all NL starting pitchers should be sent to their minor league clubs to see live pitching on their days off.

The game is too specialized, and watching a pitcher's at bat is one of the worst, and most embarrassing parts of baseball. The only players who truly like this archaic rule are the NL starters themselves. (for easy outs)

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I'm in favor of most of these rules. Pitch clocks? Yes, please. Reducing pitching changes by having a minimum number of batters faced? Yes, please. One rule for DH, even if it's not the one I want? Yes, please. Draft penalties for teams that intentionally tank and don't spend money? Yes, please.
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