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Old 02-10-2019, 12:34 PM
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When I was a kid playing baseball the best athlete was always the pitcher. Then when he didn't pitch he played shortstop. Oh and by the he was almost always the best hitter. Its just like the specialization of all sports. If pitchers hit all the time wouldn't they continue to be good hitters. It doesn't seem to hurt Micheal Lorenzen for the Reds.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:52 PM
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Imagine if you will an NFL where in the NFC only a single extra point was permitted, while in the AFC the two point conversion was allowed.

In games between teams from each conferencre, the rule applicable for the home team would be used for that game.

In the Super Bowl the rules for the team that won the coin flip would be used in the first and fourth quarters and the other rules would be used in the second and third quarter.

Think about it. Is there anyone in their right mind, if such a scheme was adopted, who would not think it was created and approved by an idiot, or a rules committee populated by a majority of idiots.

The whole DH thing hasn’t made sense for forty odd years since it was instituted. If you raise your son to become an AL pitcher, you don’t allow him to touch a bat. He can skip then skip tee ball and get his first Tommy John operation before Little League. Fine.

NL pitchers will be culled from Little League shortstops who are clearly the best all around players on their team, whose talent in the batter’s box is gradually lost in college and the minor leagues where DHing is king.

Personally I would eliminate the DH from the AL, but adopting the DH in the NL is far better than the current system, I will concede.

Half the NBA shouldn’t have to play on an ice rink.

Marathon runners shouldn’t have to compete against smart cars at Indy.

How about a cross between golf and whack a mole where the hole is continually moving on the green, or where half the holes are suspended .10 feet off the ground and Tiger Woods Jr. could literally be a chip of the old block.

Disclaimer: This post was written while sober and not in a bowling alley, where the consumption of adult beverages can impact the results of the game. Cheers!


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When I was a kid playing baseball the best athlete was always the pitcher. Then when he didn't pitch he played shortstop. Oh and by the he was almost always the best hitter. Its just like the specialization of all sports. If pitchers hit all the time wouldn't they continue to be good hitters. It doesn't seem to hurt Micheal Lorenzen for the Reds.
This was alluded to in my post. The best player on a little league team, who is also a future major leaguer, plays both shortstop and pitcher usually because he is the best pitcher, the best hitter and the best fielder on the team. With the DH for 10 years before he hits the bigs, his hitting skills are truncated if he is groomed to pitch.

Conclusion, you would see better hitting pitchers in the majors if the DH was eliminated from the ground up.
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Maybe they should learn to hit to the opposite field instead of bellyaching about it.
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I hope this happens. At least we can all stop pretending to care about the double switch.
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When the DH first appeared in 1973, the leagues were separate, so while it was odd for each league to have different rules, it at least didn't cause any problems. Now that we have interleague play, the rules are determined by who is the home team. That's ridiculous.

Either have the DH in both leagues, or get rid of it entirely. Doesn't matter to me which one they utimately choose, but having separate rules makes no sense.

And I agree completely about neutralizing the defensive shifts. If a batter keeps hitting into the shift, he is going to see it for the rest of his career. And his production will be greatly diminished. But if he learns to slap the ball the other way and puts together a few 4 for 5 games, watch how quickly they will end. It seems to me that batters who have seen a shift in the past should be taking a little extra batting practice in spring training to learn how to hit to the opposite field.

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And I agree completely about neutralizing the defensive shifts. If a batter keeps hitting into the shift, he is going to see it for the rest of his career. And his production will be greatly diminished. But if he learns to slap the ball the other way and puts together a few 4 for 5 games, watch how quickly they will end. It seems to me that batters who have seen a shift in the past should be taking a little extra batting practice in spring training to learn how to hit to the opposite field.
It is embarrassing that almost no one tries to beat the shift. My biggest complaint isn't about delays per se, but the lack of any action. Strikeouts are at an all-time high, and stolen bases are nearly forgotten. Get back to basics, and the game would be fine.
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It is embarrassing that almost no one tries to beat the shift. My biggest complaint isn't about delays per se, but the lack of any action. Strikeouts are at an all-time high, and stolen bases are nearly forgotten. Get back to basics, and the game would be fine.
Absolutely. How many times have you seen a lefthanded hitter line a ball into right field, which is normally a single, only to see the second basemen who is playing in short rightfield throw him out as if it were an infield groundout. Yet if the batter took a simple check swing and tapped the ball toward leftfield, he could trot to first base with a single. If I can figure that out, why can't the team figure it out?

Every team in every sport spends countless hours trying to come up with counters to their opponents offensive and defensive switches, yet baseball hasn't figured how to counter the defensive shift. And it isn't even complicated. I find the whole thing baffling.

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Half the NBA shouldn’t have to play on an ice rink.

How about a cross between golf and whack a mole where the hole is continually moving on the green, or where half the holes are suspended .10 feet off the ground and Tiger Woods Jr. could literally be a chip of the old block.
Both of those have some real potential. Basketball on ice especially.
Or maybe Maxi-golf where you drive through an actual windmill.

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The senior class picnic/outing in college we had a softball tournament. I was on a team with a bunch of other people nobody cool wanted on their team. 3 inning games. First game I had a perfect game! Second game they put in a rule that the pitcher had to have a beer on the mound at all times, and had to drink after each batter. We won the second game! Third game the pitching control was just gone along with any ability to win. Still had a great time


I like both the DH, and seeing pitchers hit. Especially when the get a hit and seem totally lost on the basepaths.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:02 PM
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Well, if we standardize the DH, then why not make all the parks universal?

Seem silly center field is 436 at Minute Maid and only 390 at Fenway.

Why does Oakland Coliseum have all the foul ground and Coors field doesn't.

NFL fields are all the same. Why not MLB then?

Just a bit off center is the deep part of Fenway at 420


They sort of tried building "standard" stadiums in the 70's, and it was dull dull dull.
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